US New US childhood obesity guidelines criticised by families - Some families worry that new guidelines from US paediatricians prioritise surgery and intensive therapy.


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Jaelynn Perez (left) and her mother, Tracy Sherman

In the US, new guidelines on how paediatricians should treat childhood obesity have been met with some criticism.

The American Academy of Paediatrics has recommended intensive therapy for children as young as six and weight loss drugs and surgery for those in their early teens.

But some fear this approach will come at the expense of a healthy and active lifestyle.

One child in five is obese in the US.

Doctors say early treatment is needed to prevent lifelong conditions, such as diabetes.

I meet Tracy and her 14-year-old daughter, Jaelynn, in a suburb of Washington. They live in a residential complex surrounded by highways and a few patches of green grass.

Tracy is upset - she's just received the news that Jaelynn's school is getting rid of the Physical Education class and replacing it with a health course taught in the classroom.

She's worried because her daughter already doesn't get much chance to move and socialise with her classmates. She thinks the new class will make it even more difficult.

Jaelynn tells me that last year she enrolled in a summer camp organised by the YMCA. She would go on field trips during the day and spend plenty of time outside.

"It was really fun," she says. "I felt better, I felt healthier, and I loved making friends."

Jaelynn has suffered from kidney disease since she was a child, and her being overweight negatively impacts her condition. But her mum says during the summer things started to improve.

"She lost twelve pounds in three months," Tracy says. "Her nephrologist was really impressed that she could lose so much so quickly. Her health improved and her confidence as well."

This change, Tracy tells me, showed her how important it was for her daughter to do activities outside.

For years, doctors have promoted a healthy lifestyle as the best way to fight childhood obesity. But in recent weeks the debate over this issue has reignited, as the American Academy of Paediatrics issued new guidelines for the first time in 15 years.

They say that eating well and exercising is not always enough.

"Medical treatment and prevention need to go hand in hand," says Dr Nazrat Mirza, one of the authors of the guidelines.

"Obesity is a chronic medical condition and in addition to healthy lifestyle changes, we have shown that medication works, and surgery also works."

Dr Mirza says the guidelines want to shatter the double standards that people with obesity face by making medical treatments readily available, like for any other condition.

"Just like asthma, just like hypertension," she says. "In hypertension you would tell somebody to cut salt, but then the blood pressure is still high, so you're still going to give them medication."

But some doctors are concerned by the emphasis on intensive early intervention.

Dr Katy Miller works with teenagers struggling with eating disorders at Children's Minnesota, and she fears these guidelines might be "setting kids up for a challenging relationship with their bodies".

"We are proposing treatment strategies that are expensive and even in the best circumstances are often unsuccessful," she says.

She thinks the focus should be more on the societal factors that impact childhood obesity.

"How can we ask someone to diet when we're not addressing things like poverty, food scarcity and housing instability?"

"I had a 15-year-old patient who had been told by doctors to lose weight," she adds, "and his family has been living in extreme poverty. They had a change in their financial circumstances, and he said to me 'do you know what the best part about having money is? You can buy fruit that isn't mouldy'."

On a cold grey day, I meet Julia. She's a mum of three and she has just finished a year-long support group on healthy cooking organised by the YMCA.

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Mother of three Julia Guevara was diagnosed with high cholesterol and prediabetes during pregnancy

"I am the one who cooks at home," she tells me proudly, "so if I cook healthy food, my family stays healthy."

She was referred to the program because she had been diagnosed with high cholesterol and prediabetes during pregnancy. Her teenage son, she tells me, was starting to have health issues as well, and that motivated her.

While she cuts some fruit for her toddler, I ask her what she thinks of the new guidelines.

She shakes her head.

"As a parent, I'd first try changing the food we eat and getting my children to do sports," she says.

"In our country, kids don't have that many opportunities to exercise, schools don't have enough sports programs. Only if I had tried everything, then I might consider it."

On the opposite side of town, Tracy agrees. "Surgery and medication should be the last resort," she says.



"Obesity is a chronic medical condition and in addition to healthy lifestyle changes, we have shown that medication works, and surgery also works."
"You don't understand goy, we NEED to get your child addicted to pills at an early age, you just gave us the perfect excuse for it."
 
The steep rise in obesity makes me think that there must be an ingredient recently put in food or chemicals in the environment, that is causing kids and adults alike to be compelled to overeat. Sedentary lifestyle and a lack of discipline certainly will make people unfit or chubby, but I feel other factors must be at play. Too many young people are literally addicted to food. It’s a shame. Everyone looks sick.
It's additive sugar in goddamn everything. It's both addictive and adds empty calories without nutritional benefit, leading to over-eating to compensate.
 
They might as well just STFU and leave poor people alone. They are going to eat what they can afford and that's going to be a lot of unhealthy stuff. Obesity is an economic issue. As capitalism continues to fail and the US economy continues to decline peoples eating habits are going to get even more unhealthy. Fresh fruits and veggies aren't cheap. Matter of fact nothing in the grocery store isn't cheap. I know because I just got back from one. 4 bags for $105. I can eat out cheaper than that.
Why are you buying pre chopped vegatables instead of cutting them up yourself?

Most vegetables around where I live are under $5 per pound which usually has more than I need. A bag of Yukon potatoes usually goes for $7-$12 depending on which store you go to.

Mind you I live in fucking Canada, where we are being taxed to death. Eating healthier here is cheaper than junk food. I’m assuming that you’re American, which gives you less of an excuse to be mindful of where you shop. Pretty sure there’s places cheaper than Whole Foods.
 
I bought bags of frozen vegetables yesterday at Wal Mart. Spring mix and stir fry. Lasts forever and 1.45 a bag.

Any fatty who says they can't afford veggies is a liar, a fat liar.
 
All this "muh poverty" but these fat fucks burn thru their food stamps buying oreos and lil' debbie snacks.

You wouldn't believe how much money I started saving once I stopped buying sodas and got a water filter, but try telling these hambeasts to stop drinking sugar with dye.
she's just received the news that Jaelynn's school is getting rid of the Physical Education class and replacing it with a health course taught in the classroom.
Imagine the savings: now instead of a gym, a trained teacher just for PE and tons of equipment all the school needs are some shitty books sponsored by nabisco and getting any of their overworked borderline suicidal teachers to read that book out loud to practically illiterate zoomers.

Cuts on education disguised as progressivism.
The whole "junk food is cheaper than healthy food" is the greatest of fatty copes.
Yep, its been a long time since junk food was cheap food, nowadays its not that far from a cheap (but healthier) restaurant, problem is these people are too lazy and dumb to cook at home.
 
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All this "muh poverty" but these fat fucks burn thru their food stamps buying oreos and lil' debbie snacks.

You wouldn't believe how much money I started saving once I stopped buying sodas and got a water filter, but try telling these hambeasts to stop drinking sugar with dye.
"Sodies."


This clip alone will never not make me laugh my ass off, but disgust me at the same time. However, what she says right after makes me understand why they look and behave the way they do - their mother is mind-blowingly ignorant and it passed it on to them, and that's very sad.
 
The steep rise in obesity makes me think that there must be an ingredient recently put in food or chemicals in the environment, that is causing kids and adults alike to be compelled to overeat. Sedentary lifestyle and a lack of discipline certainly will make people unfit or chubby, but I feel other factors must be at play. Too many young people are literally addicted to food. It’s a shame. Everyone looks sick.
It's a lot of things.

1. High fructose corn syrup (more liver damaging and diabetes inducing than white granulated sugar).

2. PUFAs (polyunsaturated fatty acids). They make up the bulk of seed and vegetable oils. Avoid corn, soy, sunflower, safflower, canola/rapeseed and peanut oils. They get snuck into almost every processed food you find off a grocery shelf. Most restaurants are not safe. Stick to avocado, palm, butter, lard, ghee and extra virgin olive oils.

3. Preservatives and other additives to processed foods. For example, bread and anything containing wheat flour would fuck me up. Turns out I'm fine with homemade or traditionally made breads using a clean wheat source. Big brand bread has esters, preservatives, and a bunch of weird sounding chemicals. Also, the wheat to make the flour was likely sprayed with glyphosate and dessicants which wreak havoc on your gut microbiome resulting in pain, inflammation, bloating, brain fog, etc.
 
I'm gonna say I do pretty well buying bulk ingredients and cooking my own food. I also am lucky enough to have more time to do so than the average person. So although 'healthy food is more expensive than unhealthy food' I disagree entirely- BUT time does have a certain cost too. If I am extra busy one week it is a lot harder to ensure things are running smoothly in the kitchen. But overall, eating less food is cheaper than eating more food....so.....

I got a 20lbs bag of rice the other day expecting it to last quite some time. Put some rice in a pot to cook it, added water, and a ton of dead beetles floated to the top. Looked at new bag- dead bugs all throughout. Like damn, rice is cheap but throwing out that whole thing hurt. If I wasn't so grossed out and threw the whole thing in the compost immediately I should have tried to exchange it at the grocery store to avoid wasting 22 dollars. Fuck.
 
It’s laziness and the fact that the lifestyle is being force fed to the masses. If you gather 100 fat Americans and shove them into one room, how many do you reckon know how to cook for themselves? I would gladly bet that < 10 do. It’s also why these same fat people also lack adequate physical hygiene. Why? Cooking and showering require effort and getting off of your fat ass. Every obese person I know requires immediate satisfaction, gratification and are among some of the largest (hehe) consoooomers.

Honey Boo Boo or whatever her name was did the people no favors some 10+ years ago when that was a thing, and now you have hamplanets like this Lizzo creature who are constantly displayed before you. Shit, have you checked out Victoria’s Secret’s website recently? It’s the epitome of lolfat. America now mass-markets shirts that can “hide” the now coveted “dadbod”. Fucking bizarre.
 
All this "muh poverty" but these fat fucks burn thru their food stamps buying oreos and lil' debbie snacks.

You wouldn't believe how much money I started saving once I stopped buying sodas and got a water filter, but try telling these hambeasts to stop drinking sugar with dye.
All you have to do is check out the Polissa thread to see how true this is.
 
What poor education (and sneed oils) does to a mf:
Well she clearly has some mental issues. but she is right, potatoes and cheese are good food and cheap. HEr issue is that she eats to much and moves to little.


"I don't even eat that much! Its muh metabolism!". This especially comes from fat women. I swear big girls must think that just because they're female that the law of thermodynamics just don't apply to them. That no matter how little they eat the fat just magically teleports into their bodies.
Well their Metabolism is shit because they are fat and dont move.
 
Tracy is upset - she's just received the news that Jaelynn's school is getting rid of the Physical Education class and replacing it with a health course taught in the classroom. She's worried because her daughter already doesn't get much chance to move and socialise with her classmates. She thinks the new class will make it even more difficult.
It sucks that the school is cutting PE, that's definitely an issue that needs to be addressed. But what's stopping the mother from doing physical activities in their free time? Join a discount gym, go for a walk at local park, do some youtube workout videos at home, literally anything is better than sitting around doing nothing.
 
"Amerifat" is a cope that relies on decades old data back before the entire planet became fat. Behold, the horrors of the modern world!

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Obesity isn't an American problem. It's a behavioral sink problem. The more comfortable and first world a country gets, the more hedonistic its citizens become. America just had a head start on everyone else because it was the birthplace of basically every 20th century luxury. Even Japan is teetering on 30% overweight. Fucking Japan, long touted to be the healthiest place on earth.

Eventually, humanity is going to have to collectively realize that the modern trend of trying to shield every last person from even the most minor discomforts is at fault for just about everything wrong with the world. Otherwise we're going to evolve into I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream blob monsters who do nothing but eat Takis, guzzle Coke, and shit into a tube that turns our waste into more Takis and Coke.
 
The steep rise in obesity makes me think that there must be an ingredient recently put in food or chemicals in the environment, that is causing kids and adults alike to be compelled to overeat. Sedentary lifestyle and a lack of discipline certainly will make people unfit or chubby, but I feel other factors must be at play. Too many young people are literally addicted to food. It’s a shame. Everyone looks sick.
This is almost entirely cultural.

Seed oils, corn syrup, or plain old sugar are not to blame for people continuing to eat when they're a hundred pounds overweight. If anything a major problem has been a lack of shaming about weight, with people not wanting to blame the Fats' behavior and instead trying to brainstorm some conspiracy being at play.

Cheap food is just really easy to access now and you have to demonstrate some self-control to be able to put down the fork. Take the rotisserie chicken for example, supposedly it started being sold more widely in the US in the 90's, around when obesity rates starting shooting up even more. It's often sold at a loss because it helps bring people into stores, in other words we have food being sold so cheaply that it loses businesses money. Imagine explaining that to someone in the 19th century.

If we're trying to pinpoint what it is that's really changed to make people so fat, it's that people don't really have to go hungry now because we've made farming, supply chains, and food production that are just that are so efficient that food is just that cheap. So now we have to do something relatively unnatural for most creatures, which is choose not to eat. In cultures like some of Asia's, it's normal to shame people for getting fat and consequently you see fewer fat people. The west needs to adopt this practice of shaming so that midwits take a hint.
 
It’s also why these same fat people also lack adequate physical hygiene. Why? Cooking and showering require effort and getting off of your fat ass. Every obese person I know requires immediate satisfaction, gratification and are among some of the largest (hehe) consoooomers.
I think Josh said it on MATI at some point, but he made a connection between the behaviors of opioid abusers and fat people. Specifically that they are incapable of tolerating the most minor discomfort. I think there's something to the idea that this kind of hedonistic self indulgence rewires the brain to need dopamine and instant gratifications at all times and diminishes the ability to tolerate anything less.
 
To play devil's advocate just a little with Michele Obama, at least she spoken against this shit.

The whole "junk food is cheaper than healthy food" is the greatest of fatty copes.

And even if its true, so fucking what? Are you telling me you cant budget or something? Are you saying that your health isnt worth that effort?
 
Why do they give a shit? Not like the fats are going to be following it anyways.
 
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