🤝 Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

I honestly think about this often when I come across social media accounts featuring families that have collected adopted multiple special needs children. Before the mid-2000s, many countries allowed foreigners to adopt as many children, especially special needs children, as they wanted, and people took advantage. Many countries that were formerly alluring for American prospective families, including Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Guatemala, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Ethiopia, Cambodia, Vietnam, and China, have enacted extremely stringent laws which make international adoption extremely difficult or impossible altogether, following allegations of rampant corruption, coercion of birth parents, trafficking of children, and multiple high-profile cases of abuse or fatalities involving children adopted from abroad.

Anyway, a lot of the families who pursued international adoption framed it as "saving" a child from a life in an institution. I always wondered how much better it was for the kids who ended up in huge families, removed from their country, culture, and language.

I know of one family like this. They often adopt through “Reeces Rainbow” agency, and thankfully, the 2 disabled girls they got from a Ukrainian institution turned out to be easy going and are doing fantastic now. They don’t even look like the same kids, they are so healthy and happy.. (Another mom that adopted from there- they are friends- got a total nightmare RAD kid, it broke up her marriage …)

But this mom is addicted to babies and has had/acquired kids in every way possible- birth mom, step mom, foster, adopted from foster, adopted overseas from an institution, domestic infant adoption, adopted an embryo and birthed a black baby (her and husband are white ofc).

There are 16 kids at their house now, IIRC. I think all the adopted ones are disabled in some way.
Overall they do a very good job with this many kids, but I always wonder if she’s gonna push it, try to birth another, and die while trying (very possible). Hope not!

The saddest and most baffling to me are the “incompatible w life” babies that fundy moms proudly birth, loudly boasting how they beat the odds and showed those mean docs who pushed abortions on them.

I recently found “Trisomy 13/18 warriors” Honestly it just seems cruel. Death isn’t the worst outcome, it can be a blessing.

While some genetic-issue kids seem happy, there are so many in this category that are obviously miserable. Their whole lives are medical appointments, getting poked w needles, tubes, surgeries. They can’t see, talk, walk, communicate, but they can feel pain endlessly.

All while their mommies talk about the latest hospital trip, procedure, and how great God is for letting the kid live past the 2 weeks that was predicted. And always how abortion would have robbed the world of this wonderful gift.

But god isn’t letting them live- modern medicine is (millions of dollars of it). Plus all the extra care- these kids get round the clock caregivers. I guess they keep lots of people employed, so that’s good.

This sweet little girl below looks uncomfortable in every single bit of media she’s in.
There’s another little baby in this group that doesn’t have eyes, can’t open his fists, and also looks unhappy in every image. I truly hope he’s really happy and enjoying life, and the pics are not a good indicator. He looks very loved, but also very uncomfortable.

I would love to know if the moms really think this is a good life worth living, or if they would take it back if they could. Seems like a massive cope on their part, but who knows w fundies.
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I know of one family like this. They often adopt through “Reeces Rainbow” agency, and thankfully, the 2 disabled girls they got from a Ukrainian institution turned out to be easy going and are doing fantastic now. They don’t even look like the same kids, they are so healthy and happy.. (Another mom that adopted from there- they are friends- got a total nightmare RAD kid, it broke up her marriage …)

But this mom is addicted to babies and has had/acquired kids in every way possible- birth mom, step mom, foster, adopted from foster, adopted overseas from an institution, domestic infant adoption, adopted an embryo and birthed a black baby (her and husband are white ofc).

There are 16 kids at their house now, IIRC. I think all the adopted ones are disabled in some way.
Overall they do a very good job with this many kids, but I always wonder if she’s gonna push it, try to birth another, and die while trying (very possible). Hope not!

That is fucked up. I don’t care whether the adopted kids are ostensibly better off in that household rather than languishing in an institution: there is no way that each kid gets the individual love, care and attention they need, with so many pseudo-siblings to compete with, and a mother constantly looking for her next fix

That life is probably not much different to an actual institution tbh.
 
Not to defend Gwen, but didn't they not realize the condition was even genetic til Lola ended up with it? I know she still chose to continue the pregnancy despite prenatal diagnosis of the same issues, but aren't most cases of microcephaly/etc just spontaneous and not genetic?

Regardless I think immobile spuds are basically the perfect kids for narcissists, due to their lack of ability to go against whatever the narc wants.

I had it in my mind that they knew very early on/pre-conception, but I haven't refreshed my Goblin lore in quite a few years so you may be right on this.

And big agree re spuds and narcs — I made a very similar comment over in Luna's thread not long ago. All that sympathy and a kiddo who will never grow independent and lippy... Perfect in every way, if you're a Gwen or a Robyn (:_( (:_(
 
Any parent whose house is coordinated like a Target ad is a massive red flag. I hope those girls are happy and well cared for, but I can't help but think they have a raging IG narcmom who probably flips her shit at them doing normal kid things in her photostudio house :(
The saddest and most baffling to me are the “incompatible w life” babies that fundy moms proudly birth, loudly boasting how they beat the odds and showed those mean docs who pushed abortions on them.

I recently found “Trisomy 13/18 warriors” Honestly it just seems cruel. Death isn’t the worst outcome, it can be a blessing.

While some genetic-issue kids seem happy, there are so many in this category that are obviously miserable. Their whole lives are medical appointments, getting poked w needles, tubes, surgeries. They can’t see, talk, walk, communicate, but they can feel pain endlessly.

All while their mommies talk about the latest hospital trip, procedure, and how great God is for letting the kid live past the 2 weeks that was predicted. And always how abortion would have robbed the world of this wonderful gift.

But god isn’t letting them live- modern medicine is (millions of dollars of it). Plus all the extra care- these kids get round the clock caregivers. I guess they keep lots of people employed, so that’s good.

This sweet little girl below looks uncomfortable in every single bit of media she’s in.
There’s another little baby in this group that doesn’t have eyes, can’t open his fists, and also looks unhappy in every image. I truly hope he’s really happy and enjoying life, and the pics are not a good indicator. He looks very loved, but also very uncomfortable.

I would love to know if the moms really think this is a good life worth living, or if they would take it back if they could. Seems like a massive cope on their part, but who knows w fundies.
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That group has been posted about ITT before. One of the things medfagging has taught me is that even to this day, T18&13 are usually fatal by early childhood, particularly all the heart and lung defects. I assume that's what that baby has going on, poor kid.
 
The saddest and most baffling to me are the “incompatible w life” babies that fundy moms proudly birth, loudly boasting how they beat the odds and showed those mean docs who pushed abortions on them.

I recently found “Trisomy 13/18 warriors” Honestly it just seems cruel. Death isn’t the worst outcome, it can be a blessing.

While some genetic-issue kids seem happy, there are so many in this category that are obviously miserable. Their whole lives are medical appointments, getting poked w needles, tubes, surgeries. They can’t see, talk, walk, communicate, but they can feel pain endlessly.

All while their mommies talk about the latest hospital trip, procedure, and how great God is for letting the kid live past the 2 weeks that was predicted. And always how abortion would have robbed the world of this wonderful gift.

But god isn’t letting them live- modern medicine is (millions of dollars of it). Plus all the extra care- these kids get round the clock caregivers. I guess they keep lots of people employed, so that’s good.

This sweet little girl below looks uncomfortable in every single bit of media she’s in.
There’s another little baby in this group that doesn’t have eyes, can’t open his fists, and also looks unhappy in every image. I truly hope he’s really happy and enjoying life, and the pics are not a good indicator. He looks very loved, but also very uncomfortable.

I would love to know if the moms really think this is a good life worth living, or if they would take it back if they could. Seems like a massive cope on their part, but who knows w fundies.
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There's a fundie mommy blogger who made headlines a decade or so ago by seeking to "adopt" frozen embryos from parents who had sought IVF but had extra. If I recall correctly, she was especially keen to adopt embryos with an incompatible with life diagnosis.

She got all frothy at the idea that these "babies" might just be discarded or live their whole lives in vapor phase LN2 or something.

Edited to say that a lot of these "parents" like to throw around a pithy little saying: "incompatible with life is not incompatible with love". I cannot imagine the privilege required to reach adulthood without learning that sometimes, the most profoundly loving act is to let someone go when their suffering becomes too great. It's absolutely a loving thing to release someone from their pain, and in so doing, take it upon yourself to live with for the rest of your life. If you really, truly love someone, that is what you do. You take the burden from them and bear it yourself. Actually, I think there might be a brief little aside about that very thing in the Bible somewhere.
 
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Not to defend Gwen, but didn't they not realize the condition was even genetic til Lola ended up with it? I know she still chose to continue the pregnancy despite prenatal diagnosis of the same issues, but aren't most cases of microcephaly/etc just spontaneous and not genetic?

Regardless I think immobile spuds are basically the perfect kids for narcissists, due to their lack of ability to go against whatever the narc wants.
Dr. Dobyns (notice me senpai) told Gwen that he thought whatever Claire had was likely inherited in an autosomal recessive manner, and recommended preimplantation genetic diagnosis if they planned to have more children. I recall that Gwen was particularly irked by his saying that they could "help [her] have healthy babies".

Dr. Dobyns was correct, Gwen ignored him, and Lola was born shortly (shartly?) after.
 
And that's the #1 reason - the FPs are completely unprepared for what they're getting into. Many of them think it's going to be like when the cousins visit, and they set an extra place at the table and make up the bed in the basement, but yeah, it's a lot more complicated than that.

Many people who realized that foster parenting was way above their pay grade have fulfilled that desire by hosting exchange students.
The situations that result in kids needing foster care often involve such incredibly fucked up home lives that even CPS gets off its ass and takes them out of the home. As a result the kids themselves are often incredibly fucked up with huge behavioral issues.

This sweet little girl below looks uncomfortable in every single bit of media she’s in.
There’s another little baby in this group that doesn’t have eyes, can’t open his fists, and also looks unhappy in every image. I truly hope he’s really happy and enjoying life, and the pics are not a good indicator. He looks very loved, but also very uncomfortable.

I would love to know if the moms really think this is a good life worth living, or if they would take it back if they could. Seems like a massive cope on their part, but who knows w fundies.
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Is that picture on the left what I think it is - a child who had open heart surgery, and for some reason, the incision was not closed right away? Just curious - what disorder does this unfortunate child have, or do you know?
 
That is fucked up. I don’t care whether the adopted kids are ostensibly better off in that household rather than languishing in an institution: there is no way that each kid gets the individual love, care and attention they need, with so many pseudo-siblings to compete with, and a mother constantly looking for her next fix

That life is probably not much different to an actual institution tbh.

It's like a variation of the crazy cat lady. I'd categorize someone like that as a kid hoarder. Instead of more kids she should get herself some psychiatric help.
 
Is that picture on the left what I think it is - a child who had open heart surgery, and for some reason, the incision was not closed right away? Just curious - what disorder does this unfortunate child have, or do you know?
I used to know this kind of shit. But basically, the ribcage and some other stuff didn't completely form within the womb and now the kid has to wear an custom chestplate.
 
Is that picture on the left what I think it is - a child who had open heart surgery, and for some reason, the incision was not closed right away? Just curious - what disorder does this unfortunate child have, or do you know?
It looks like it's Trisomy 18 (Edwards syndrome) or 13 (Patau syndrome) although the open chest is pretty horrific and I don't think either of those usually have that. Most of these kids don't even last a year and they're better off.
 
Is that picture on the left what I think it is - a child who had open heart surgery, and for some reason, the incision was not closed right away? Just curious - what disorder does this unfortunate child have, or do you know?
There's a kid whose parents are posting on Instagram right now to document his heart transplant. He has hypoplastic left heart syndrome (HLHS), a congenital heart defect in which the left side of the heart fails to form. This used to be fatal at or immediately after birth, but now kids can be bridged with a series of palliative surgeries before getting a transplant.

Anyway, the poor kid was so sick while waiting for his heart that his skin and bones are compromised. They were not able to close his skin after transplant, and then the wires holding his sternum closed pulled out of the bone because of his severe osteoporosis. Poor guy had a wound vac for weeks and just had his chest closed again recently.

They posted a video of him listening to his new heart with a stethoscope, tears filling his eyes. Just amazing to see.

Anyway, there are lots of reasons closure can't be attempted after an open heart surgery. I don't understand why you'd put a kid with a terminal diagnosis through that.

Edited to say by "terminal diagnosis" I mean one that will not be fixed by transplant. Kids with HLHS can have excellent quality of life after a heart transplant. Kids with T13 or T18 will just find another way to die. Upon rereading, I see that the kid who prompted the question has something else entirely.
 
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Does anyone here remember Baby Fae, who got a baboon heart transplant when efforts to find a newborn human heart failed? She had HLHS.

Here's the surgeon's obituary. He did more than 300 infant heart transplants.


And Baby Fae's story; her name was later revealed to be Stephanie Fae Beauclair.


I've definitely heard of people having chest or abdominal wounds that were left "open" afterwards. I just couldn't imagine doing that on a child who is unlikely to have any quality of life afterwards.
 
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Yeah I could understand a kid w/Downs whose otherwise healthy given the survival rate for Downs is now middle age, but t18 and t13 still have such poor prognosis. It just sounds like all around, the kids bodies are fucked up even worse than Downs, and I know they're considered the most survivable trisomies after Downs.

Obvious exception for people w/mosaic forms of T13 and T18, since I know the prognosis for those cases can be better depending on the tissues affected.
 
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