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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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So there is some level of support for Russia in The DPR and LPR will be interesting for Ukraine to try to take it back.
Yeah there is definitely people in those two areas who are pro russian for whatever reason however I don't think they spread as far from the boarder as they claim as the land they lay claim to is fairly large and the small amount they were able to hold without full Russian intervention was fairly small.
 
So there is some level of support for Russia in The DPR and LPR will be interesting for Ukraine to try to take it back.
Well big fucking duh, there are also partisans who support Ukraine sabotaging russia in those areas, hell, there are people who support russia wholeheartedly and maybe even await being liberated by the vdv in America, Germany and wherever else just as there are people in russia who want nothing to do with their government or nationality and would probably cheer if Kremlin got nuked.

I suppose it helps "having support" when russia places everyone who doesn't wholeheartedly support them in camps or straight up executes them forcing everyone else to keep quiet or feign support, really, who the fuck knows what people in those areas really believe, it's likely they'll believe and support whatever thing that'll make it more likely for them to survive and russia certainly doesn't give a fuck either way considering they have zero issues using scorched earth tactics on entire cities.
 
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The vatnik cries in pain as he stikes you.
 
I'm noticing the vatniks have been really quiet on the ammunition dumps getting blown sky high by HIMARS these past few days. It's almost like all that premature celebrating about Sievierodonetsk and that Ukraine was finished wasn't such a good idea after all.
 
Nova Khakovka depots are still burning, new ones in Donetsk are on fire as of few minutes ago

The explosion in Nova Kakhovka was so large that it overloaded the sensors onboard NASA's VIIRS satellite. Note the large cluster of white pixels.

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I'm noticing the vatniks have been really quiet on the ammunition dumps getting blown sky high by HIMARS these past few days. It's almost like all that premature celebrating about Sievierodonetsk and that Ukraine was finished wasn't such a good idea after all.

All stages of grief in one chat thread:

Denial: "may be it's hohol depots? May be left those and now are destroying them?'
Anger: "blind satellites, turn off internet, hit retranlators, Yankees must suffer"
Barganing: "American arms in action. Zelensky can do this to Crimea, Kurks, Donbass. It's time to put Americans into their place"
Depression: "Putin,,,hear the wails of Russian people,, start fucking hohols over for real!!!"
Acceptance: "Zero questions, A+ productivity for hohols, HIMERS loaded with sat coordinates, press the button and GTFO - but compared to our strikes, they hit perfect, hit and ammo goes off, you can see it finds it's target"

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I really want to know what kind of effect these attacks on Russian ammunition depots have on the battlefield and supply line. We might see some glimpses of it in the coming days

it's going to be hard to quantify, since RF claims "operational pause" ... so they haven't planned to advance, honest. The rest may be chucked in as "good will gesture".

The dumps also range to various levels, division, army etc. One in Nova Khakovka was reportedly 3 days worth of unloading, grad rockets. Ammo can vary in type, plus some hits like yesterday was also next to a command post (or post next to a dump) which resulted in another general and few other rankers, today few confirmations coming in about "heroicly KIA"

Even before the last few days of something like 20 depots blown up, back to Lysichansk days they were making a notable difference that could only be quantified as "we are getting shelled less" by front line units.

During Lysychansk offensive, RF did 45'000 heavy artillery shells, @60k/shell, that's 2'500 metric tonnes of shit ... per day. The flow is not straight forward and I bet RF will try to adapt, I'm sure, somehow.

Basically all I'm saying, it will be hard to quantify the effect, the brains at intel know, but they will tell general public is anyone's guess.
 
RF has a vast rate of shell production, one of the strongest in the world (although the storage of them is now a bit challenging to say the least, it isn't just Gen Vodka attacking the Russian storesman but Gen HIMARS now). Obviously unless Macron cucks badly, any tanks firing those shells have much reduced capabilities as their electronics tend to be French.


Operator Starsky on Russian fakes, one claim is they shot down 1000 Bayraktar TB-2s.


Ukrainian servicemen working to liberate Kherson.


Denys Davydov mostly covering HIMAR firings and other issues like how Russia is said to be looking for drones from Iran.
 
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I'm noticing the vatniks have been really quiet on the ammunition dumps getting blown sky high by HIMARS these past few days. It's almost like all that premature celebrating about Sievierodonetsk and that Ukraine was finished wasn't such a good idea after all.
Listen, HATO globohomo hohol loving swine, those ammo dumps getting blown up by HIMARS are all part of the plan!
Putin is playing 9D Warhammer, and Ukraine is taking the bait perfectly!
 
Hey, at least they're honest. They don't pretend to be the bastion of masculinity and heterosexuality while drafting white Russian males into an army full of butt-rapists.

I really want to know what kind of effect these attacks on Russian ammunition depots have on the battlefield and supply line. We might see some glimpses of it in the coming days
Probably something drastic. They've been reliant so much on that artillery to cause damage on the Ukrainians. Take that away, and what does Russia have left? Target practice? Untrained cannon fodder? Vehicles that belong in the junk pile?
 
Before the war, Russiaboos claimed one Tor system could intercept a whole battery of HIMARS/M270 rockets.
Turns out, a whole battery of Tor cant even intercept one HIMARS rocket.

*autism disclaimer: Yes, I know the HIMARS & M270A1 arent the names of the rockets, they are the launchers which shoot a variety of munitions including the M26, M30 and ATACMS...
 
Before the war, Russiaboos claimed one Tor system could intercept a whole battery of HIMARS/M270 rockets.
Turns out, a whole battery of Tor cant even intercept one HIMARS rocket.

*autism disclaimer: Yes, I know the HIMARS & M270A1 arent the names of the rockets, they are the launchers which shoot a variety of munitions including the M26, M30 and ATACMS...
Russiaboos make many claims and jack off to how wonderful and based Russia is.

They don't want to accept the fact that it's a poor country full of sodomy and despair, with a military whose equipment that isn't up to par with China, let alone America.
 
Before the war, Russiaboos claimed one Tor system could intercept a whole battery of HIMARS/M270 rockets.
Turns out, a whole battery of Tor cant even intercept one HIMARS rocket.

*autism disclaimer: Yes, I know the HIMARS & M270A1 arent the names of the rockets, they are the launchers which shoot a variety of munitions including the M26, M30 and ATACMS...
Wat, a TOR has 8 missiles ready to fire. A single HIMARS carries 6 missiles, with a battery being like 3-4 launchers, meaning 18-24 total.

Are they expecting a 300% hit rate?
 
Wat, a TOR has 8 missiles ready to fire. A single HIMARS carries 6 missiles, with a battery being like 3-4 launchers, meaning 18-24 total.

Are they expecting a 300% hit rate?
There is a certain level of reality breaking delusions when it comes to just how good russian gear should be so it isn't surprising that the people who hype russian wanderwaffen can't quite keep their expectations under control.
 
Wat, a TOR has 8 missiles ready to fire. A single HIMARS carries 6 missiles, with a battery being like 3-4 launchers, meaning 18-24 total.

Are they expecting a 300% hit rate?
More of a paraphrase on my part. More to the "invincibility" of Russia's air defense "shield".
But unfortunately I can't find the context of the convo beyond a more recent claim by the offender referencing Pantsir:
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There is a certain level of reality breaking delusions when it comes to just how good russian gear should be so it isn't surprising that the people who hype russian wanderwaffen can't quite keep their expectations under control.
Remember how people often say that the AK-47 doesn't jam or overheat, no matter what you do with it?

Yeah, I bet those people feel really stupid right about now.
 
it's going to be hard to quantify, since RF claims "operational pause" ... so they haven't planned to advance, honest. The rest may be chucked in as "good will gesture".

The dumps also range to various levels, division, army etc. One in Nova Khakovka was reportedly 3 days worth of unloading, grad rockets. Ammo can vary in type, plus some hits like yesterday was also next to a command post (or post next to a dump) which resulted in another general and few other rankers, today few confirmations coming in about "heroicly KIA"

Even before the last few days of something like 20 depots blown up, back to Lysichansk days they were making a notable difference that could only be quantified as "we are getting shelled less" by front line units.

During Lysychansk offensive, RF did 45'000 heavy artillery shells, @60k/shell, that's 2'500 metric tonnes of shit ... per day. The flow is not straight forward and I bet RF will try to adapt, I'm sure, somehow.

Basically all I'm saying, it will be hard to quantify the effect, the brains at intel know, but they will tell general public is anyone's guess.
45'000 Shells a day. Russian artillery barrels are probably run down enough to where the shells will start exploding inside the barrel soon. Accuracy of ANY kind is toast.

You can have all the ammo in the world, good luck shooting it out of the same couple of guns without critical failures, russian maintenance must be working 24/7 for that shit to barely function and even then, looking at fields of craters it appears their guns have fuck all accuracy left in them.

TL;DR They'll run out of functional guns before they run out of ammo at that rate of fire is what I'm saying.
 
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