🤝 Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Mustard on the cob]

Layla and Stevie Chronicles Continues
(Includes guest appearances from other irrelevant spoonies, and a bunch of text because my shitty writing is still more tolerable than Stevies incoherent British rumbling) Part 2

3/29: Two days without a real post so mum has to give us an update on Layla! They did a livestream yesterday during which Layla complained about hip pain and feeling like she was gonna pass out. So dad had to take her to some sort of doctor this morning where she was xrayed, they found that one hip looked different than the other but didn’t explain why and referred her to physio. (Madam you explained like five videos ago that your daughter was diagnosed with hip dysplasia as baby, couldn’t that be the reason she was in pain and the doctors not immediately doing something super invasive????)
Well she kinda mentions that Layla always had some problems with that hip and throws shade at the paediatrician who she thinks isn’t managing it.
Basically Layla had a few rough days with her struggling to stand, chest pains and a high heart rate. But today they finally had an appointment with geneticist (who Stevie likes for once), it was just a team call tho but the doctor suspects myasthenia gravis. Interestingly she mentions that they’ve seen this doctor for her brother before but quickly brush’s it off.

Spoiler: Interesting hashtags

3/31: Stevie filming herself having a mental breakdown in her car just what we needed. Dad chased up a cardiologist appointment while the paediatric cardiologist called and said that she can’t take Layla due to her being 16 and falling under adult cardiologist patient , however evil GP won’t treat Layla for POTS until it was confirmed or at least looked at by a cardiologist. Two halter monitors showed sinus tachycardia (of course she doesn’t mention the situation in which this occurred nor how long it lasted), and right now she has a resting heart rate around 100 bpm

Spoiler: Slight PL

I used to have a similar resting heart rate when I was a teen due to a combination of anxiety and being a lazy fuck

and can barely stand up without passing out plus she’s super fatigued but that doesn’t matter to evil doctors. Also Layla missed her mock exams and they don’t know if she will make it to GCSEs.
One paediatrician mentioned she could have POTS but was a bit too truthful for Stevie and suggested that Layla should increase her fluid and salt intake. This video went somewhat viral (at least more than the previous ones) so the comments are full of spoonies complaining about the nhs/doctors in general (I will mention one specimen at the end of this)

Spoiler: Ugly crying

2/4: Proof of Layla drinking the electrolyte solution that was suggested for her possible POTS, that’s the video.

Spoiler: Bonus Spoonie+Tiktok MATI

As I mentioned the comments
s were full of seething white teenaged spoonie girls, one stood out to me in particular because I’ve seen this type of behaviour on tiktok a lot recently. I didn’t save her name because she’s really just an example of this shit. Basically she makes quite a few videos that hint at her being chronically ill/ she even calls herself chronically I’ll but she won’t for the sake of whatever mention what she suffers from. She does videos showing off her piss bag, claims she passed out for seven minutes and her heart just stopped and she saw the back rooms, these videos obviously cause the most interaction and views and she’s very aware of that. So she makes the most sappy videos possible or splits them into parts where you obviously have to wait and view her account. Questions like "What are your diagnoses? Why are you in hospital?" Are never answered although she responds to everything else, of course no one is exactly entitled to know what she may or may not suffer from but if you make it your whole Internet personality one might expect it being mentioned somewhere. The fact that she was milking this whole thing for clout became really obvious when she made a video about her one day waking with a rash on her décolletage (that looked like chemical burns even to the doctors) and that thing happening over 30 times, she even promised to make a second part to reveal if they found out what caused this but that part obviously never came. I’ve seen this so many times on this hellish app in the last few weeks, illness,accidents, and other traumatic experiences that are often real being milked out for views and likes and I have a hard time feeling compassion for these people, maybe I’m just a psychopath tho idk.

Spoiler: It’s all just cause I have a vagina

 

[Gayden_Wren]

Is celiac getting trendy for munchies? So dumb to fake bc you can't really pretend to have tissue damage from inflammation in your gut. I imagine the #ana hashtag might stand for anti-nuclear antibodies, which they could be testing her for and are a sign of lupus.

Celiac might not be, but ‘gluten intolerance‘ seems to popular in munchie circles, anyone can identify as GI, diagnosis is based on self reported symptoms.
Make every food based event evolve around you super power = munchie wet dream

 

[Arvee]

i noticed #ana in the caption , does it stand for some spoonie diagnosis or is Stevie planning on setting up a Ana-Chan career for Layla?

Maybe it really is the thing Yuzu mentioned, but you know what would explain tachycardia, orthostatic hypotension with dizzy/fainting spells, and chronic fatigue?

A raging ED!

 

[Dnein]

Shout out to the it wasn’t BPD, my Dr is a misogynist crowd.
My favourite breed of light autist (social media’s too apparently), is the type denies the existence of severe autism all whilst living a normal and total boring life.

Many self appointed autists like to claim super empathy skills in my experience, they are so special, unique and must have their feels protected at all costs.

I am sceptical of ‘autism meltdowns‘, especially when they present in individuals who are otherwise high functioning and apparently involve a loss of voluntary control. Seems like a convenient way out of taking responsibility for punching a psyc nurse,

The ASD is a superpower types are almost always self diagnosed bullshitters, and I believe almost every one is actually garden variety cluster B in denial. The "hyper empath" crap is pretty common in the "BPD is pure stigmatized victimhood" groups, but at least they own their actual diagnosis there. Overall I think they confuse projection with empathy, or simply want rewarded for giving a fuck in any way (everything they do is special, remember, hardest life). I think a few jump ship to faking autism because they see it as an excuse card, allowing them to narc rage and follow with "oh noes, meltdown UwU", and simply stop controlling their emotional outbursts. Not to mention walking around with ASD gear made for kids, chewing on a rubber toy, fake stimming is sooooo quirky and provides them with constant attention. Sure, some may be comorbid, but when 9/10 are pressed their explanation for ASD symptoms is less accurate than a 10 second Google search.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

Shout out to the it wasn’t BPD, my Dr is a misogynist crowd.
My favourite breed of light autist (social media’s too apparently), is the type denies the existence of severe autism all whilst living a normal and total boring life.

Many self appointed autists like to claim super empathy skills in my experience, they are so special, unique and must have their feels protected at all costs.

I am sceptical of ‘autism meltdowns‘, especially when they present in individuals who are otherwise high functioning and apparently involve a loss of voluntary control. Seems like a convenient way out of taking responsibility for punching a psyc nurse,

I feel like maybe writing a thing up about autism fakers and non-fakers on tiktok, but I'd feel bad posting the ones I peg as non-fakers. Maybe I'll dig around on the fakers and leave the others out.

Ironically, I've seen more disabled autists get hate from these super speshul females for acting... well... autistic.

Fathering autism posts on there and understandably gets vitriol since they make a living off their disabled daughter including making money off her discomfort and distress. Like, sure they don't post her pure tard rage, but filming her anxiety in a grocery store as they try to shove 'life skills' down her throat is equally exploitative.

 

[Everything Beagle]

Just read /r/kundalini for a while

Fucking doctors in the psych ward didn't know I've awakened my kundalini. Those moronic sheep called it a psychotic episode but joke's on them I can stop time with my mind and travel through the astral realms at will

I used to tell people kundalini was a type of pasta.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Maybe it really is the thing Yuzu mentioned, but you know what would explain tachycardia, orthostatic hypotension with dizzy/fainting spells, and chronic fatigue?

A raging ED!

Or a drinking problem. Or an ED AND a drinking problem.

Osmolality of vodka and diet soda is pretty low. That's why ya electrolyes fucked up.

 

[Gayden_Wren]

I feel like maybe writing a thing up about autism fakers and non-fakers on tiktok, but I'd feel bad posting the ones I peg as non-fakers. Maybe I'll dig around on the fakers and leave the others out.

Ironically, I've seen more disabled autists get hate from these super speshul females for acting... well... autistic.

Fathering autism posts on there and understandably gets vitriol since they make a living off their disabled daughter including making money off her discomfort and distress. Like, sure they don't post her pure tard rage, but filming her anxiety in a grocery store as they try to shove 'life skills' down her throat is equally exploitative.

I like ‘autism parents’ because it amuses me to see ‘#actually autistic’ scum bags seethe, rage and possibly dilate, beyond that though it’s awful to see someone’s vulnerable moments being exploited when they lack the capacity to comprehend why the hell is a camera stuck in their face.

Autism fuckery is very milky and diverse- there’s something for everyone, from crazy, pseudo scientific bleach treatments and stem cell injections to munchies and straight up malingerers, ’community‘ infighting and unhealthy levels of woke fuckery.

The ASD is a superpower types are almost always self diagnosed bullshitters, and I believe almost every one is actually garden variety cluster B in denial. The "hyper empath" crap is pretty common in the "BPD is pure stigmatized victimhood" groups, but at least they own their actual diagnosis there. Overall I think they confuse projection with empathy, or simply want rewarded for giving a fuck in any way (everything they do is special, remember, hardest life). I think a few jump ship to faking autism because they see it as an excuse card, allowing them to narc rage and follow with "oh noes, meltdown UwU", and simply stop controlling their emotional outbursts. Not to mention walking around with ASD gear made for kids, chewing on a rubber toy, fake stimming is sooooo quirky and provides them with constant attention. Sure, some may be comorbid, but when 9/10 are pressed their explanation for ASD symptoms is less accurate than a 10 second Google search.

From my understanding, the point at which high functioning autism diverges from cluster B disorders isn’t clear cut. Functionally, what is the difference between BPD ( black and white thinking, difficulty maintaining relationships, unstable mood)+ sub par social skills and certain presentations of high functioning autism?
Fake stimming is hilarious, way to go, turning making an absolute fool of yourself in to a trend, what ever will future generations think? I’ve never met a severe autist who stims like some of the tiktok stimmers.
If you aren’t already familiar with this, let me introduce you to unmasking, a process some ‘autistics’ go through where they intentionally stop using social skills they have learned and embark on a journey of making themselves look as tard as possible, the brit bong brand of unmasking uniform includes children’s dungarees in an adult size, a sunflower lanyard, very conspicuous ear defenders, greasy danger hair plus stim toys. It’s all done under the guise of ‘protecting mental health’, pretending to be normal whilst autistic has got to be difficult in some situation, there’s coping strategies that you can learn for that which don’t involve munching histrionics.


edit: by the way our dear deaf blind medical student has been aware of her guest appearance on here from pretty much day one, How do I know? Her tiktok videos indirectly refute point that have been made about her here on kiwifarms. Don’t want to take my word for it? Go seek your own evidence.

How good are the accessibility features on this website ? Asking for a friend.

 

[son of jurassic bark]

Hella late to be chiming in here, but diphenhydramine is helpful for brain zaps from crazy pill withdrawals, and can help a little (minimally, but better than anything else otc) with benzo withdrawals as well

 

[Adjustable Autism]

when 9/10 are pressed their explanation for ASD symptoms is less accurate than a 10 second Google search.

Or they grab the first book off Google books or find some obscure mommy blog and just switch everything to first person. It is great when one of them is trying for a real diagnosis and basically describes herself (or himself, even though it is usually women) as the tardiest of tards instead of somewhat impaired.

Spoiler: Slight PL: Only read if it doesn't make your POTS flare

That is how I found Jacquie, who introduced me to the wonderful world of online munchies. A coworker sent me the link to the "all about my autism" video and it was almost word for word from a book we were involved in researching.

 

[Dovahshit]

I feel like maybe writing a thing up about autism fakers and non-fakers on tiktok, but I'd feel bad posting the ones I peg as non-fakers. Maybe I'll dig around on the fakers and leave the others out.

Ironically, I've seen more disabled autists get hate from these super speshul females for acting... well... autistic.

Fathering autism posts on there and understandably gets vitriol since they make a living off their disabled daughter including making money off her discomfort and distress. Like, sure they don't post her pure tard rage, but filming her anxiety in a grocery store as they try to shove 'life skills' down her throat is equally exploitative.

man fuck Fathering Autism,
dude tries to look humble while making his daughter distressed on purpose i.e camera shoved in face, taking her to the mall while he knows she cant seem to handle all the crowdedness.

I like ‘autism parents’ because it amuses me to see ‘#actually autistic’ scum bags seethe, rage and possibly dilate, beyond that though it’s awful to see someone’s vulnerable moments being exploited when they lack the capacity to comprehend why the hell is a camera stuck in their face.

Autism fuckery is very milky and diverse- there’s something for everyone, from crazy, pseudo scientific bleach treatments and stem cell injections to munchies and straight up malingerers, ’community‘ infighting and unhealthy levels of woke fuckery.

From my understanding, the point at which high functioning autism diverges from cluster B disorders isn’t clear cut. Functionally, what is the difference between BPD ( black and white thinking, difficulty maintaining relationships, unstable mood)+ sub par social skills and certain presentations of high functioning autism?
Fake stimming is hilarious, way to go, turning making an absolute fool of yourself in to a trend, what ever will future generations think? I’ve never met a severe autist who stims like some of the tiktok stimmers.
If you aren’t already familiar with this, let me introduce you to unmasking, a process some ‘autistics’ go through where they intentionally stop using social skills they have learned and embark on a journey of making themselves look as tard as possible, the brit bong brand of unmasking uniform includes children’s dungarees in an adult size, a sunflower lanyard, very conspicuous ear defenders, greasy danger hair plus stim toys. It’s all done under the guise of ‘protecting mental health’, pretending to be normal whilst autistic has got to be difficult in some situation, there’s coping strategies that you can learn for that which don’t involve munching histrionics.


edit: by the way our dear deaf blind medical student has been aware of her guest appearance on here from pretty much day one, How do I know? Her tiktok videos indirectly refute point that have been made about her here on kiwifarms. Don’t want to take my word for it? Go seek your own evidence.

How good are the accessibility features on this website ? Asking for a friend.

i find them hilarious in the sense that they all copy from those infamous autism documentaries who always talk about how autist think in puzzle pieces and stim every second
and when they hear a tiny noise or get off their schedule for one nano second they lose their shit

amanda baggs was one of the worst offenders of that

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Hella late to be chiming in here, but diphenhydramine is helpful for brain zaps from crazy pill withdrawals, and can help a little (minimally, but better than anything else otc) with benzo withdrawals as well

Yeah there's some evidence it's useful for reducing glutamate excitotoxicity. If you have serious bzd or alcohol withdrawal you'd want somethin' a bit stronger though.

 

[Dnein]

From my understanding, the point at which high functioning autism diverges from cluster B disorders isn’t clear cut. Functionally, what is the difference between BPD ( black and white thinking, difficulty maintaining relationships, unstable mood)+ sub par social skills and certain presentations of high functioning autism?
Fake stimming is hilarious, way to go, turning making an absolute fool of yourself in to a trend, what ever will future generations think? I’ve never met a severe autist who stims like some of the tiktok stimmers.

I wouldn't say it's a difficult differentiation to make (ASD vs BPD) for any patient being honest with the physician and themselves. This is part of the problem. Really these disorders hardly resemble each other: one is emotional regulation issue, one is a sensory processing disorder. But munchies and fad self DX have shifted and blurred the definitions precisely to this purpose.

For example, you metioned black and white thinking as a shared triat. Yet in BPD, that refers to splitting (switching a person from all good to all bad on an impulse based on mood) and in ASD that refers to literalisms and failure to see nuance (social incompitance). Hell, BPD usually weaponizes nuance, where autistics miss it.

Not to mention that BPD centers around impulsivity and feeds from social attention. Autism usually leads to avoidance, or aggression in severe cases, due to these same things BPD thrives on. Yes, sometimes BPD people will feign social phobia, but watch their eyes light up when someone gives them attention in public and you know it's bullshit.

Even the unstable mood is sourced from completely separate mechanisms. One is sensitivity and emotional rollercoasters, one is an unpredictable response to physical external stimuli.

Even with comorbid BPD and ASD, it will be all tied together for the sake of excuses. The lines are blurred specifically for the sake of the munch avoiding self improvement.

 

[buoyverificationfuel]

by the way our dear deaf blind medical student has been aware of her guest appearance on here from pretty much day one, How do I know? Her tiktok videos indirectly refute point that have been made about her here on kiwifarms. Don’t want to take my word for it? Go seek your own evidence.

If only I cared enough to use TikTok. Maybe one of the kind kiwis here will grab the videos for the greater good?

Please Alexandra, come on here and prove us all wrong about you. Explain everything. If I was wrong, I will send you a personal hand-written apology. I'll even poke it out in Braille if that's what you need.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

I like ‘autism parents’ because it amuses me to see ‘#actually autistic’ scum bags seethe, rage and possibly dilate, beyond that though it’s awful to see someone’s vulnerable moments being exploited when they lack the capacity to comprehend why the hell is a camera stuck in their face.

Autism fuckery is very milky and diverse- there’s something for everyone, from crazy, pseudo scientific bleach treatments and stem cell injections to munchies and straight up malingerers, ’community‘ infighting and unhealthy levels of woke fuckery.

From my understanding, the point at which high functioning autism diverges from cluster B disorders isn’t clear cut. Functionally, what is the difference between BPD ( black and white thinking, difficulty maintaining relationships, unstable mood)+ sub par social skills and certain presentations of high functioning autism?
Fake stimming is hilarious, way to go, turning making an absolute fool of yourself in to a trend, what ever will future generations think? I’ve never met a severe autist who stims like some of the tiktok stimmers.
If you aren’t already familiar with this, let me introduce you to unmasking, a process some ‘autistics’ go through where they intentionally stop using social skills they have learned and embark on a journey of making themselves look as tard as possible, the brit bong brand of unmasking uniform includes children’s dungarees in an adult size, a sunflower lanyard, very conspicuous ear defenders, greasy danger hair plus stim toys. It’s all done under the guise of ‘protecting mental health’, pretending to be normal whilst autistic has got to be difficult in some situation, there’s coping strategies that you can learn for that which don’t involve munching histrionics.


edit: by the way our dear deaf blind medical student has been aware of her guest appearance on here from pretty much day one, How do I know? Her tiktok videos indirectly refute point that have been made about her here on kiwifarms. Don’t want to take my word for it? Go seek your own evidence.

How good are the accessibility features on this website ? Asking for a friend.

Simple, BPD don't have language difficulties. Even the most verbose of autists have unique tone or speech patterns, and faking these aren't easy, at least consistently.

Speaking of fakers, this one was even called out by other tiktok users: @bugandalex


Bug is the one who claims autism (as well as BPD because of course), with Alex claiming just ADHD. Both are females claiming not to be so they're lesbians. They also met through tiktok and now live together (classic uhaul lesbian move right there).

They've been called out on reddit in various places for le autism fake.


The existant-nonexistant headphones and total lack of consistency in stims have been pointed out by others, but this one below strikes me as so fucking performative.


That stim is so just fucking performative it's hard to believe anyone believes this chick.

Appearance of @soundoftheforest, aka the bug autist, who this sound is from. She's one I peg as not faking, but that's just an opinion. Remember this chick as she's important.


Nigga, that's called dancing.


Prior to her transition to fat.


The magical appearing and disappearing headphones, soon to be disappearing tits as she grifts to cut em off.

The following video is what tipped me off to this person. It's long but I have it downloaded.

Essentially, she was called out for acting infantile during unboxing videos and making baby voices with her wife. She labelled this gushy stuff as stimming and people claimed it was harmful by implying all autists are babies. It was a stupid debacle.

But the reality of the unboxing videos is that Bug was copying the much larger tiktoker @soundoftheforest who did package opening videos (while stimming and wearing headphones). The copycating is so hard that she deleted the videos (so I cant provide a hilarious side by side). Just imagine @soundoftheforest but fat and badly acting.

Trooning out dates to May 2021. First autism mention also in May 2021.

Because I was curious, I looked at when the unboxing videos of @soundoftheforest took off and we've got a date of July 2021. Right around the time Bug starting claiming autism. As noted, they deleted all the unboxing videos that were copying this so I cannot confirm when they started skinwalking.

Marriage was January 2021 and totally a green card deal to get Bug from Canada to the USA. Early on in their channel is a lot of lesbian this lesbian that. They even uhauled it.


Not fat. Not fake!trooned. Not autistic. But a good looking lesbian couple.


Literally tiktok dating. Seems they started dating in March 2020 and married in January 2021, literally 9 months later.

 

[son of jurassic bark]

man fuck Fathering Autism,
dude tries to look humble while making his daughter distressed on purpose i.e camera shoved in face, taking her to the mall while he knows she cant seem to handle all the crowdedness.

THE DUNKIN DONUTS MEETUPS WITH FANS

This guy is fucking scum, his wife is scum, their fans are scum, I want them to abandon their autistic daughter in the car on the interstate (again), have her escape her car seat (again), then either drive into the sunset to assume a new identity in Cabo, or back over the pair of vile humps

Not even in minecraft I hope your autistic daughter takes the first chance she gets to put you in a chair I know you lurk here you fat fucks

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

That Alex lady has incredible bone structure and could do so much better than her dumpy girlfriend.

Autism fakers are kinda boring, though. I want toobz.

 

[Reddit Refugee]

edit: by the way our dear deaf blind medical student has been aware of her guest appearance on here from pretty much day one, How do I know? Her tiktok videos indirectly refute point that have been made about her here on kiwifarms. Don’t want to take my word for it? Go seek your own evidence.

How good are the accessibility features on this website ? Asking for a friend.

I saw her most recent TikTok (couldn’t see when it was published) and man it was the longest and least entertaining thing I’ve ever seen. A literal video essay. I thought it was never going to end, it was just like one of her blog posts. However, there was nothing particularly new and much of the same stuff she has said before (e: the only thing that indicated to me she might be here is the addition of closed captions). I don’t think she is on here because she is too self centred to not start a bandwagon on medtwitter, rather she has much more exciting things to think about…



That’s right! Alexandra was on TV today to tell the country of her plight! The parallels with Evie astound me. And much like after Evie’s TV appearance I will be looking out for public opinion towards Alexandra.

Edit: yep, the myth busting vids were made in advance of the TV appearance. She’s on Twitter replying to people in the comments questioning her.

Also, I realise in her TikTok’s she is wearing scrubs. I don’t think she’s back at medical school this term (since she’s too busy rushing to TV appearances and making video essay TikTok’s) but she’s in her bedroom. She’s put the scrubs on for costume because hospitals are strict on wearing them outside work since Covid.

 

[Adjustable Autism]

Autism fakers are kinda boring, though. I want toobz.

I mean, the online autism community is absoutely batshit and can be really entertaining. But it is less munchie antics and mostly infighting and reeeeing that therapy or research in general is literal genocide (and that it isn't a disability, unless there is something they don't want to do in which case it is sooper debilitating).
And pretty much every munchie, troon and Cluster B on Twitter or Instagram claims to have autism anyway.

Speaking of FatheringAutism though. There was one of the #actuallyautistic crowd, who made shitty, poorly researched videos about FatheringAutism, who is definitely a munchie: Mindful Divergence, aka Carol Bird from Canada. I thought about writing an introduction, but after FatheringAutism lashed out and threatened to sue, she DFE'd and disappeared (although she is back now and there is still some of the old material). Plus her main outlet is Youtube and her videos are so fucking boring, I was unable to sit through them.

 

[Mustard on the cob]

Found the nerves to lurk on Stevie and Layla again

4/2: We’re starting this one with a super horrible and debilitating rash that Stevie documents professionally ("show the one on your arms"). Mad because they didn’t get a referral to dermatology Last August , now Layla hasn’t had the rash in weeks.

Spoiler: Small pox

The community of spoonie narcs, potential munchies and relatives of the latter two, that they’ve accumulated around them in the last weeks, are convinced that this must either be MCAS or a butterfly rash typical in Lupus.

Spoiler: Comments

4/3: Stupid unfunny spoonie jokes that make me gag at this point. Stevie comments on how Layla looks "quite human, although still of the vampire variety." Your daughter’s a fucking ginger, what do you expect?

Spoiler: 🥄

4/4: Sad music, playing in the background to borderline guilt-trip any friends of Layla who might stumble upon their account I guess. Typical episode of her in the background. Her health matters most but she deserves an education and now her GCSE's are at risk

Spoiler: Slight PL

I have no idea how the British school system works, so correct me if I’m wrong,but in my experience if you’re physical or mental health is THAT bad you sometimes have to settle for less, at least for the moment

. Stevie just knows that the doctors must have missed something, so please share and like this video of her daughter suffering! Lol at the brother having to do chores in the background while Layla has a hot face and claims to feel like passing out with Stevie hovering around her. She seems totally able to move her arms/hands but Stevie has to cut her food and almost tries to feed her…
Although I feel like Layla is mostly a victim here I can’t help but to be annoyed at that baby voice…

Spoiler: See for yourself

4/6: Dad gets some appreciation for once.

Spoiler

4/7: Video mainly consists of the trusty Puls ox. Stevie claims the GP gaslighted them after telling them that the changes in Laylas pulse rates and oxygen were not concerning/normal (probably because these things are easy to manipulate as well). Stevie is flabbergasted that a humans heart rate changes from standing to resting, she also swears that Stevie doesn’t wear nail varnish on that one finger.

Spoiler: Pics

If it matters then why won’t you consider that at least some of these problems may be psychosomatic?

Lol

In which universe is POTS very ignored?