Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Psychotron]

Imagine saying this when that is EXACTLY what Biden is doing.

"I'd cut those Russians a deal, there's no reason to fight over it. You can have Ukraine but you have to take Hunter"

 

[burntwater]

You can't make a really good comparison because both presidents are completely different. Trump wouldn't have allowed the situation to have developed this far, he'd have responded early with a show of strength which is how you get bullies like Putin to back down. With Biden, Putin is counting on public opinion (especially after the disaster that was the afghanistan pull out) preventing Biden from escalating to boots on the ground.

Trump never would have allowed the US to get so dependent on Russian oil and resources as well and I think that is a large part of what has emboldened Putin.

 

[God of Nothing]

Ukraine's population has been on decline for decades. They all want out.

based russian liberators

 

[Toothpaste]

Technically Putin was right about the Anti-Nazification thing. There is an arm of the Ukraine military that are Neo-Nazis.
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They also train children
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This is old and pretty gruesome, but here the Azov guys are crucifying a separatist and burning him alive.

You can skip to 2:00 if you don't speak Slav.

 

[BayView]

Imagine saying this when that is EXACTLY what Biden is doing.

so you want to get involved in this shitshow? doesn't matter who is president this fight aint ours

 

[Mussi]

Ukraine's population has been on decline for decades. They all want out.

Yep. IMAGINE wanting to live in a Slavic shithole.

 

[Oxous]

New satellite photography from the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone. One wonders if the Russians would be forming such a big convoy if the Ukrainian Air Force is not a non-factor.

 

[WinchesterPremium]

Imagine thinking Trump wouldn't have let it happen faster.

Trump would have personally crushed the entire Russian army with his huge hands.

 

[draggs]

Oh, please, Trump admires Putin so much he'd let Ukraine get completely taken over.

On a different note, I wonder how Putin would react if this invasion were referred to as cowardly instead of aggressive. After all, Putin feels threatened by the idea of Ukraine joining NATO.

Trump would have thrown a tantrum over it and if you say otherwise lol

 

[Coccxys]

Imagine thinking Trump wouldn't have let it happen faster.

Trump probably would have forced NATO to agree to the no Ukrainian membership since he wasn't a fan of the whole thing and it would have ended up with Russia getting everything it wants at the barrel of a gun but no actual bullets coming from the guns as we have now.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

They were also trained by the US: https://thegrayzone.com/2021/05/26/belarus-roman-protasevich-plane-nazis-ukraine/

And funded by a Jewish billionaire while also swearing allegence to a Jewish president. The state of Nazism these days.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

it wasn't Krustchev and Crimea was exchanged for Kuban region

If you believe Russia was going to ever give up their only Black Sea deep water port then I want some of what you're smoking. It was never going to happen so arguing if it was Khrushchev or someone else is pointless.

The Ukrainian government was not only robbing its own people blind, it was actively assisting corrupt US politicians rob the US and its citizens blind. They get what they deserve.

 

[Only A Retard Sometimes]

New satellite photography from the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone. One wonders if the Russians would be forming such a big convoy if the Ukrainian Air Force is not a non-factor.
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as far as i can tell the only place that the ukrainian air force is still in the skies is above kiev itself.

 

[MrJokerRager]

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I don't know of Cenk is being unintentionally based with this statement and looking at the stickers.

 

[KonradCruise]

This is old and pretty gruesome, but here the Azov guys are crucifying a separatist.

Skip to 2:00 for the action.

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I still haven't heard any word on if Azov has survived in Maripol but given the utter disaster the VDV experienced at the airfield I imagine they have managed to hold on tight.

 

[Captain Manning]

Oh, please, Trump admires Putin so much he'd let Ukraine get completely taken over.

I'm not so sure about about that.

1. Obama in office: Putin takes Crimea.
2. Trump in office: Putin doesn't do shit.
3. Biden in office: Putin takes all the rest of Ukraine (probably).

Plus, I mean... that's basically what Biden is doing right now.

Either Trump and Putin had a "deal" where Putin would cool his jets during the Trump administration, or this whole Trump-loves-Putin thing is total horseshit and Putin didn't want to fuck with Trump.

 

[Jump]

pwned
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Nah...

 

[Dona Morte]

bombardment incoming

 

[Breadbassket]

as far as i can tell the only place that the ukrainian air force is still in the skies is above kiev itself.

Maybe the command thought bothering to defend the airspace of the rest of the country was a waste of time and resources?

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Shit, I don't like nuclear war either, but I'm relatively sure that even if a war got nuclear, it's going to go down to relatively "limited" exchanges between two states against key infrastructure and military centers until one of them gives up, as @ColtWalker1847 probably knows.

Uncharted territory, really. The basic idea of MAD though is that there are no "limited" exchanges. It's either all or nothing because there will be no way to tell the extent of a first strike at the time. The flight time of ballistic missiles is just too short and every bit of hesitation means less of your arsenal leaves the silos if it is "the big one".