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[behindyourightnow]

I'm sure there's a very tiny population of men that won't use female products but those people are just as insecure and obnoxious as the MTFs that need pink girly everything and think pants are triggering. So it's hilarious they'd make fun of those people when they're one in the same

All troons are like that.











I cannot emphasize enough how much troonism, despite its dumb commie branding, is a perfect manifestation of late capitalism. Defining your identity and mental health by means of Pharmaceutical Consumption and Branded Consumer Product With Manly Advertising Campaign. You are not a man because of the way nature made you. You are a man because you purchase Axe Body Spray.

It's a known problem, a side-effect of publish or perish. Discovery of a novel effect generates more press than a null result. You have a lot of research into hot button issues that depends on things exactly like this to generate the implication of interesting results, for the sake of drumming up support and adding to a researcher's list of published studies. I remember reading commentary on exactly this type of hacky population wide study as a way researchers were padding their resumes out

To some extent I understand it happening and I know there are perverse incentives, but here we have an area in which every single study in the “biological basis for transgenderism” subject area is so obviously p-hacked that (sorry to repeat myself) any first-year student could see it, and yet they’re being cited everywhere, often by prestigious institutions, and everyone is just looking the other way.

Which would be one thing if it was some trivial field with no real-world impact, but there are kids and parents out there right now making permanent medical decisions based on ideas they are being told are scientifically valid. By people they trust. They are being sat down by an authority figure and being told “your child was born with a female brain in a male body, studies have proven that trans brains are different than cis ones, this is all very biological and scientific, and we have medication to fix it.” And then these parents, whose only crime is being gullible and trusting medical professionals, are signing off on destroying the health of their children.

It’s just… I was cynical already, but now, how in good faith can we ask anyone to trust any research in any way?

 

[Kiislova]

Deodorant

Dumb consoomer troon things.
I specifically aim for no-perfume or very neutral scent products regardless of the "gender labeling" because I don't wanna smell like a 15yo kid that thinks Axe is cool to use.

TIFs are just a walking stereotype soooo many times.

 

[Protistology]

All troons are like that.

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I cannot emphasize enough how much troonism, despite its dumb commie branding, is a perfect manifestation of late capitalism. Defining your identity and mental health by means of Pharmaceutical Consumption and Branded Consumer Product With Manly Advertising Campaign. You are not a man because of the way nature made you. You are a man because you purchase Axe Body Spray.


To some extent I understand it happening and I know there are perverse incentives, but here we have an area in which every single study in the “biological basis for transgenderism” subject area is so obviously p-hacked that (sorry to repeat myself) any first-year student could see it, and yet they’re being cited everywhere, often by prestigious institutions, and everyone is just looking the other way.

Which would be one thing if it was some trivial field with no real-world impact, but there are kids and parents out there right now making permanent medical decisions based on ideas they are being told are scientifically valid. By people they trust. They are being sat down by an authority figure and being told “your child was born with a female brain in a male body, studies have proven that trans brains are different than cis ones, this is all very biological and scientific, and we have medication to fix it.” And then these parents, whose only crime is being gullible and trusting medical professionals, are signing off on destroying the health of their children.

It’s just… I was cynical already, but now, how in good faith can we ask anyone to trust any research in any way?

Getting worried about skin irritation and obsessing over branded body wash. Just man things.

 

[Notorious AGP]

More like colonizing instinct:

Why do lesbians u-haul? Or go on 8 hour dates? : actuallesbians

archived 31 Jan 2022 09:35:30 UTC

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His user history is something else. Ex-military, ex-Republican, early 50s, everyone's a TERF or alt-right bigot:

overview for caelric

archived 31 Jan 2022 11:00:52 UTC

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The "gold star lesbian" in question. Chasers, DNI:

9 Week Post Op FFS/BA, 2 Weeks Post Op BBL, 1 Year HRT, 51 y/o : Tran…

archived 31 Jan 2022 11:59:05 UTC

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50 y/o MtF, 4 mos HRT, Another Dinner Date w/Family : TransLater

archived 31 Jan 2022 12:04:28 UTC

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[Surfin Terf]

The sad thing is they’re not even technically incorrect in that shamelessly marketed products are kind of gross and desperate… but that argument loses some weight as they twirl their big girly dresses and sausage-pack their hammocks into knee-high socks to wear their Girl costume around town.
If you expect me to have to call you “she” because we both acknowledge the Party City wig you’ve placed over your bald pate now makes you a full-fledged woman, then cut the guys some slack getting power tool soap as a low-tier Father’s Day gift.

Gendered products are cringe and the whole "manly" meme is cringe, but don't you dare talk shit about soaps that look like things that aren't soap. Those are based and redpilled.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

All troons are like that.

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Trans men put more thought into deodorant than actual men do.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

Not an easy tale to listen to

Idk if he even realizes what he's revealing.

Adolescent pre-AGP curiosity + humiliation at the hands of his sisters + his Mom letting him wear their clothes as a reward = what he is now.

The humiliation, followed by a pattern of secretly indulging his inchoate sexual feelings thru wearing his sister's clothes, is the psychological/chemical hook. Adolescence is confusing and it seems pretty easy for kids' brains to start wiring themselves up wrong, diverting the normal development of sexual attraction to other people to attraction to a warped image of the self. Shame and embarrassment are powerful emotions that become internalized and rocket fuel the kink.

He frames the crossdressing as a coping mechanism, but it's more like how alcoholics "cope" by getting drunk. It's a self-reinforcing pattern of behavior that requires more and more booze/ladyfeels over time to achieve the same dopamine buzz.

 

[Zyklon Ben's Poison Pen]

I cannot emphasize enough how much troonism, despite its dumb commie branding, is a perfect manifestation of late capitalism.

Nothing to do with either, its societal disconnection + loss of purpose + social media + enablement of unhealthy lifestyles. I know Marx has the whole concept of being 'divorced from their means of production' but frankly I don't see anything that backs this idea up. Its just a numbers game, if 3% of males are AGP (Blanchard, R 2000, ‘Autogynephilia and the taxonomy of gender identity disorders in biological males’) and 1% of female are their equivalent then 3% of 1 million is 30,000, a literal army. If 150Mil in the US are male, 3% 4.5 Million potential AGP. Its an unimaginable number and social media just makes you feel surrounded.
Throw in extreme leftist politics and institutional bias and you've the current disaster going on right now.
This isn't some silly fight over Communism and Capitalism, this is End Of Empires stuff.

 

[Muskcarpone]

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A) Obvious joke on current marketing trends attempting to do to men what they did to women with women's products for decades.

But this comment did make me think of a question though.

If gender affirmation is so important to you, why is it a joke for cis men? I'm being serious here, why wouldn't a cis man feel dysphoria using feminine products, if gender identity is such a powerful motivator of action? Should cis men and women be having break downs too, whenever they weren't able to have their gender affirmed? Does a woman using her husband's body wash spend the day having dysphoria because she smells of pine instead of lavender?

Apparently, trans men neither exist nor deserve gender affirmation for this transphobic TERF. Smh.

 

[Mellow Malevolent]

To some extent I understand it happening and I know there are perverse incentives, but here we have an area in which every single study in the “biological basis for transgenderism” subject area is so obviously p-hacked that (sorry to repeat myself) any first-year student could see it, and yet they’re being cited everywhere, often by prestigious institutions, and everyone is just looking the other way.

Which would be one thing if it was some trivial field with no real-world impact, but there are kids and parents out there right now making permanent medical decisions based on ideas they are being told are scientifically valid. By people they trust. They are being sat down by an authority figure and being told “your child was born with a female brain in a male body, studies have proven that trans brains are different than cis ones, this is all very biological and scientific, and we have medication to fix it.” And then these parents, whose only crime is being gullible and trusting medical professionals, are signing off on destroying the health of their children.

It’s just… I was cynical already, but now, how in good faith can we ask anyone to trust any research in any way?

I don't disagree. The perverse incentives vary a lot by field and subject area, and in particular here, no one is undertaking the effort for studies proving that being trans isn't real. If you are a researcher in the subject area, all your incentives point towards looking for a cause of transgenderism, because it's taken as a given that transgenderism is a real phenomena. People studying gender identity as a research topic are also almost all coming at it from a supportive stance. No one is making their central topic of interest something they believe is made up.

Any time you get a null result under the incentives above, all it does is cut off that avenues for future study and mean you have to find some other logic to base future research (and with it, grant funding) on. So you have every interest in casting as broad a net as possible to find your precious significant result, so you can write the journal article that picks up media attention. That gets the university administrator, or private foundation administrator, interested in giving you more money to keep going down the rabbit hole. Money is scarce, and no one paying for these studies is interested in results saying "being trans is made up, and we shouldn't be spending money on it, and the medical industry is exploiting deusion to sell dangerous treatments and procedure to people at no benefit to the patient".

And this is on top of a social environment that will backlash badly against you if you try to produce research strongly questioning the current orthodoxy. You basically have to go over anything trans related with a finetooth comb because it's not just institutional capture, it's the whole subject area that is fundamentally flawed by the core premise it is based on being flawed

 

[Positron]

So from a brief skim: they got two populations, compared an absolute mountain of data, and then pulled out whatever differences they saw and claimed that the differences meant something. Just like they do in all the other “biological differences between cis and trans” studies.

You could do the same thing with any two groups of people. You could do it with groups divided into what their favorite colors are. You could find just as many "differences" between a group divided into those that watched WandaVision and those that didn’t. That’s how data dredging works.

But they are not comparing two random groups of people, but identical twins reared in the same househood vs fraternal twins sharing a househood. This way the environmental influence is presumably taken care of, and I think it is the next best thing to comparing identical twins reared apart, which is impractical. The identical vs fraternal studies might even win out because of large sample size and hence statistical power.

p-hacking can be a problem if, as you say, each of the paper compare a hundred variables. From the table of Polderman et al we see the highest number of variables in each study is 24 (the author did not mention the number of items in two studies), and these studies do deserve more suspicion. The Coolidege-Thede-Young paper, on the other hand, looks especially relevant because the researchers based their questionnaire (6 items only) on the DSM diagnostic criteria.

Non-publication of negative results is, of course, another issue, but this is pertinent to all areas of science. You may argue this is especially pertinent to tranny shit because of politics though.

cannot emphasize enough how much troonism, despite its dumb commie branding, is a perfect manifestation of late capitalism.

Transsexualism is late capitalism, when identities are literally up for sale.

Nothing to do with either, its societal disconnection + loss of purpose + social media + enablement of unhealthy lifestyles. I know Marx has the whole concept of being 'divorced from their means of production' but frankly I don't see anything that backs this idea up.

Transsexualism has more to do with Durkheim's concept of Anomie (low social cohesion of individual people, plus the frequent fluctuation of social norms cause people to lose moral and existential purpose; in the original formulation Durkheim used this concept to analyze the prevalence of suicide) than Alienation sensu Marx. You can't be alienated from the product of your labor if you don't produce at all.

 

[ShitInMyMouth]

If you have a cock.
And eat cock.
Thats gay.

It's gay if the balls touch. I don't make the rules.

 

[behindyourightnow]

But they are not comparing two random groups of people, but identical twins reared in the same househood vs fraternal twins sharing a househood. This way the environmental influence is presumably taken care of, and I think it is the next best thing to comparing identical twins reared apart, which is impractical. The identical vs fraternal studies might even win out because of large sample size and hence statistical power.

p-hacking can be a problem if, as you say, each of the paper compare a hundred variables. From the table of Polderman et al we see the highest number of variables in each study is 24 (the author did not mention the number of items in two studies), and these studies do deserve more suspicion. The Coolidege-Thede-Young paper, on the other hand, looks especially relevant because the researchers based their questionnaire (6 items only) on the DSM diagnostic criteria.

Non-publication of negative results is, of course, another issue, but this is pertinent to all areas of science. You may argue this is especially pertinent to tranny shit because of politics though.

I don't think you are looking at the same study. I was referring to a specific study on epigenetics that @Chandelier was talking about (I wasn't able to quote the post directly) and that had nothing to do with twins. It's this one:

Epigenetics Is Implicated in the Basis of Gender Incongruence: An Epigenome-Wide Association Analysis

IntroductionThe main objective was to carry out a global DNA methylation analysis in a population with gender incongruence before gender-affirming hormone treatment (GAHT), in comparison to a cisgender population.MethodsA global CpG (cytosine-phosphate-guanine) methylation analysis was performed...

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I don't have time to read the whole twin study right now but given that it's from 2002 and mostly involves homosexual transsexuals, I can't imagine it's all that relevant to what we think of when we think of transgender people today, who are mostly spicy straights.

But let's assume it is: even if some sort of heredity is still evident, all that would mean is that there is potentially a hereditary basis for gender dysphoria and/or autogynephilia. Which is a whole world away from "there is a biological basis for transgenderism, and transgender people have brains that match the opposite sex!"

As others have said, for science to even begin to prove that, you'd have to have something like a study where you scanned children's brains and accurately predicted, with no other info apart from their birth sex, which ones would turn out to be trans ten years later, Or a study where you scanned the brains of gender dysphoric youths and predicted which ones would later detransition, or which kids' dysphoria would resolve. No one has been able to do anything like that, even though such things should be easy given that "science has proven a biological basis for transgenderism."

Happy to be corrected and to continue the discussion, though.

 

[Positron]

I don't think you are looking at the same study. I was referring to a specific study on epigenetics that @Chandelier was talking about (I wasn't able to quote the post directly) and that had nothing to do with twins. It's this one:

Sorry my mistake. Genome-wide studies simply should NOT use p<0.05. Studies on single-nucleotide polymorphisms cite fearful sounding p-values like <10⁻¹².

 

[Notorious AGP]

Be sure to give Carissa a warm welcome to womanhood, ladies:

 

[PinstripeLuns]

Fuck off.

 

[The Southwest Strangla]

Seen this in the comment section on a Facebook page.

 

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[Mellow Malevolent]

Having read through the Twin study @Positron linked, I think it's an example of the way the sciences shifted so much in the span of a few decades. In 2002, these researchers were looking to see whether or not GID had a heritable component, like other psychiatric disorders (ex. depression). They found a strong heritable component, but that makes perfect sense because a lot of other things, including predisposition to paraphilias is have also found to be at least partially hereditary. I remember reading a study that showed that there was ever link between pedophilia and left-handedness.

The idea that a person has a biological susceptibility to experiencing GID doesn't mean that they are a different gender on the inside. It's insane that the rhetoric has shifted to the point where now the studies accept the delusional premise that transgender people present as the basis for studying GID. No one would think to suggest that somebody who was studying anorexia would presuppose that the anorexic was correct that they were too fat as a baseline for study. Even if they did find a biological mechanism it would still not justify all of the demands because ultimately whole it's proving is that there is a biological component to the delusion. It's obvious why too, because if a biological predisposition towards AGP was discovered, it would mean that we should be looking towards reasonable accommodation like with any other disability, instead of basically rolling over to any demand the trans lobby makes.

 

[Black British Nerd]

Unpassing tranny goes on british morning news to talk about how she isn't a human and actually identifys
as a wolf.

'I Was Born Human But Identify As A Wolf' | This Morning

You've heard of a wolf in sheep's clothing, what about a wolf in a human body? Naia Ōkami (27) says that although she lacks four legs, fluffy ears and a tail...

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