Groovy
tangible
Take us to the chapel of St. Paul, some of the minstrels of the time.
Bring us guitar, the organist, the castanet, the horn and the drummer.
Music
The sea is wicked in a world we cannot see
Many devils and the ghosts are writhing in the trees
Sweat from the brow is pooling in the sea
She coughs them off, spagas to the street
You can't even gather the strength to stand
Drawing round your point
Please stand back, you're having a hard time
Hup, hup, hup, hup, hup
La, la, la, la, la, la, la
Music
I see them moving in the sky
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait
We can just play now
Drawing round your sin shadow
Stick or bone
God's turn and love, there's no respite from the past
Squads like a spider in the shadow you curse
God's turn and love, there's no respite from the past
Squads like a spider in the shadow you curse
Squads like a spider in the shadow you curse
God's turn and love, there's no respite from the past
I didn't do anything, I literally just finished my run and I'm bored
I've got my Metallica shirt on anyways
Did I scare you?
I'm scared
Get out your jokes and jabs now
I'm scaring poor Merlin
By the way, he's lying over there not because he doesn't have a bed
The other jump scare is probably League of Legends
He's lying over there because that's where the heat is
He's like a little lizard
He's got the heat lamp option
Over there he's got his bed off camera
He's got his bed option
Don't worry, I'm not subjecting him to just being on a little pad on the floor
He has a bed
I don't want to move the camera because it's been really hard to prop it up like that
He likes his little heat area
He's very obsessed with heat
I think all Boston's are that way
They really like the sun and heat
I don't think their bodies are very good at circulating or something
Don't worry, I'm only here to see you get down with an NPC in Baldur Gate 3
Nice!
I don't know if I'm going to do that today
Well, I guess I could
I was like, oh, I should just talk to people
Oh, I find myself wanting to stream
Which is like so shocking
Merlin is just a little tortoise
Baskin in the sun, true, look at him, isn't he sweet?
Yeah, he loves the sun though, he seeks it out
So did Blitz though
I'm, I know, I'm a streamer
Gabby, I've missed you
Man, Gabby seeing your like glow up online has been crazy
It's been a lot of fun to watch everybody kind of like glow up, you know?
I'm like, damn, we all glued up
Maybe not me, depending on who you ask
Ian said the other day, he was like, we're hot!
I was like, well, to some, to some they think we're disgusting
Disgusting!
But I wouldn't have it any other way
What are your specs on my computer?
I don't know, this thing's like 10 years old
Anissa, you must stream telepathy, it's finally nice!
Lurch, you never gave up, you never gave up
That's what matters
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know what's infected my brain
I think part of it is like, Ian is like super encouraging
He's like, you did so great
And I'm like, really?
Him and my mom
My mommy, my mommy told me I was doing a good job
They stole your wisdom teeth, huh?
Wish that was me
I mean, hey, be careful what you wish for
It was creepy, when they grab your tooth with the pliers
And they start pulling, you hear the snap in your skull
I don't like that
I don't, I don't, not a fan
So, I'm so glad you could show up today, Gabby
It's exciting
Can't, can I, can you buy my wisdom teeth?
You can, they're foul, actually no, I don't think you can
Like, ship things via bodily fluids and stuff, via mail
I think Belle Delphine got in trouble for that, right?
Didn't she?
I don't know
They do not let you ship teeth, no
You're gonna get me arrested
Hoob, I get it, I love going to the dentist as well
I speed ran my teeth appointments
Once I did the first one, I realized that I actually kind of liked it
That's fucked up
Not that I liked it
The thing is, when she was doing my fillings
I always call them fillers, and Ian always makes fun of me
When she was doing the fillings on the bottom of my teeth
The first time she was like, this is going to feel bumpy
I had no idea what that meant
But she put the, like, drill thing on my teeth
And it was like, brrrrrrr
And like, my whole, like, head was like, not pulsating
But like, not gesticulating, it was um
My head was moving
It was, you know, rattling, rattling
And that felt really good
I was like, damn
Put me to sleep
You're gonna put me to sleep
That's what I said
I said, whoa lady, you're gonna put me to sleep
Also, she was just fucking awesome
She gave me like a little gift card at the end
For salt and straw, which I haven't used yet
I think I'm gonna go with Ian
There's two places
Three places, dessert places
Four places
There's four dessert places
In Seattle, that if you are in Seattle, you must go to
Fuji Bakery, hotcakes, salt and straw
And if you're vegan and or gluten-free, Frankie and Joe's
I'm glad that I got that out before the ad break starts
So again, ad break, how annoying on a scale one to ten is the ad breaks
Because it helps so when people come in
They don't get hit with an ad right away
You know what I mean?
Haircuts put me to sleep too
Never been to Seattle, you should
Everyone should go to Seattle
I think
Oh dude, yeah, unironically I've almost fallen asleep at the dentist
I've almost fallen asleep at the dentist
And I've almost fallen asleep getting a tattoo
But it's very specific with where the tattoo
Because I know that sounds like I'm trying to act hard
I'm not
I was begging for my fucking life during my back tattoo
I was begging for my life during the stomach part of my sternum tattoo
But top of the arms
Um
I think it's the lighting for me
I see fluorescent and I close my eyes to fight it
And then I get so sleepy
That makes sense
No, yeah, top of the arm
Like back of the arm, leg
Like I fall asleep during that
Or like I almost fall asleep
And it has to be
So what's the topic, pain?
No, no, no
Well, we were just talking about the dentist because my
It's the day after I got my wisdom teeth pulled
But the
I don't know what it is about
Damn, that's a long ass ad break
Bitch, does it have to be that?
It seems so long
I don't like that
Anyways
Specifically it has to be a rotary pen tattoo
It can't be a coil tattoo
For some reason coil machines hurt more
To me
Maybe it's mental
I don't know
Let me look at this ad break
Crap
Hold on
I want to make it so people don't
Make the ad breaks longer
I oddly prefer to watch them tattoo me
I get that
When I'm getting certain things done
I do
It depends
Drawing blood, absolutely not
I cannot look at that shit
Tattoos, if I can see it
I think it's cool
And it's so smooth
You know
It's just so smooth
People really seem to be liking the podcast by the way
The recent groove that we've gotten into the podcast
Which is like super exciting
Man
I don't want to run ads that
Where is it? Analytics?
No, monetization
Ads
Okay, activate your schedule
I don't want to opt into the ads incentive program
That seems dumb
Unkept earnings
I literally actually don't care
I just don't want
Long
Okay
So to disable pre-roll ads
When I run ads
30 second ad break equals 10 minute pre-roll ad free
Up to 3 minute ad break equals 1 hour
Pre-roll ad free
What the fuck does that mean?
I'm not
I'm not touching
I don't know what the fuck that means
I might, I don't know
It wasn't too bad
Okay, well that's good to know
We'll just keep testing out
Which tattoo hurt the most?
Upper arm was the easiest for me too
I think actually the top of my forearm was the easiest by far
I fell asleep literally getting this tattoo
And the guy had to stop and ask me if I was okay
He woke me up
But he was so gentle
I don't know what it was about this guy
He was so gentle
Um
Yeah
I would say all arms is like completely fine
The most painful tattoo for me by far
Not even a competition is my back
And there's a lot that goes into that
The problem is, right
Is
Some artists like pride themselves on having the heaviest hand in the game
So like, there's like people who just have heavy hands
And they tattoo
And they love to have heavy hands
The person
It's very common
In the American traditional tattoo world
To like
Be, be happy that you have a heavy hand
So, so some of the tattoos that I've gotten are a bit skewed
Because of that
The, the hardest was my back
But again, like
You're taking like
Lines
Because I have a snake
On my back
Which
I'm happy that I have it
It looks really good
But when I was getting it done
I was like
I am the dumbest bitch
To ever grace
God's green earth
Because
The, the lines
Right, they draw
It's long
It's long
It's long
It's long
It's long
It's, right
They draw
It's long
Sweeping lines across your back
Feels like
Like a jellyfish
Is like
Petting you
Caressing you basically
And then
When
He finished like the body
The long lines
I was like
Okay, I told him
Ah
I always know when they don't respond to you
That like
You're in for it
Right, I said to him
I'm like
Oh, thank God the long lines are over
I think I'm really gonna like
The short lines
And he didn't say anything
And I should have known
I should have known
Because he started
Doing these little fucking
And you could feel
Every single scale
Going in
And I thought I was going to pass out
Because it's on the spine
To like
I don't
Yeah, I don't know
It's on like
Like
Like
What the
Bruh
And then
And then he says to me
As
As he's like
Doing the short lines
I asked him
Okay, so
This is actually
This whole thing is fucking crazy
So one
This guy who tattooed my back
Right, you sign a contract
That says that
You will complete this back piece
Within the year
Okay
He will only tattoo you
If you sign a waiver
That you are agreeing to complete
The tattoo
Within a year
There's two reasons why
One, it's like his art piece
That he drew beforehand
That he wants to use
A human canvas for
So it's like his project
That he wants to complete
So you have to comply with that
And the other thing is
If you get it done
Like over the span of a couple of years
It heals weird
And
You can like tell
Like it ages differently
So
I signed up to get this done
Within the year
And I go in
For my first appointment
And I'm so
Like
Casual
Cause like I'm thinking
I've gotten a bunch of tattoos
All over my body
I'm like whatever
You know what this is about
Like this is fine
And
He said to me
He was like
You're doing all the line work today
You can't
You can't do
Half the line work
You can't do three quarters of the line work
You have to do
All of the line work
In one sitting today
Because restensiling it
Will fuck it up
It just won't be like
Perfect
Once I lied down
And had
He asked me
They always ask you
I lied down
He starts to like
Draw the first line
They always do like
A kind of easy line
Or like what they think
Is going to be like
The easiest for your body
And he was like
How was that?
And I said
Fine verbally
But in my head
I was like
What did I do?
Okay
And if your first thought
When you are getting a tattoo
Is what did I do?
You are fucked
So like the first
Usually
So like the tips that I give for people
Sorry to your cat
The tips that I give to people is
The first 15 minutes
Are the worst
And then it gets easier
Okay
And that applies
To everything
Except for your back
Because
When you are getting tattooed
Anywhere else
It's a localized area
You get your body
You get
Your body starts to send
You know adrenaline
And you get used to everything
And
Yes
Okay
Listen to this
If you are getting a future back piece
I am serious
Because everything that you know about
Coping with getting tattooed
Goes out the window
Because they move
Your whole back is so big
And they are moving
All over
And
So the first 15 minutes
Aren't the worst
Every first 15 minutes are the worst
Because there's going to be
A ton of them
And I was
There
Lying down for 7 hours
I got one break
One
And it was
For lunch
Which I couldn't even eat
Because I
Was dreading
It was
It was
7 hours
Yeah
That's how long it took
The line work
7 hours
Yeah
And I
If you
Get a back piece
Please
God
Please
Find a tattoo artist
That lets you use
Numbing cream
Because I
I was getting tattooed
For 24 hours total
You get through the session
The 7 hour session
And then
A month later
You're coming back
That is not enough time
To forget what the fuck
Happened to you
Okay
It was traumatizing
Yeah
Yeah
My body was in shock
Shock
But I appreciate you sharing
The knowledge with all of us
Thank you
I mean
Hey
It's an experience
I feel like I ran a marathon
Kind of
And I get to wear it on my body
If that makes sense
Why didn't
Okay
So
Numbing cream
You
You'll get a million answers
From different artists
Okay
This is kind of
What I've gathered
I'll give you both arguments
And I'll tell you
What I think
Some artists
Traditional artists
Very traditional
Very hard ass artists
Like artists that
Don't want you coming in the door
Unless you like
Will put up with their shit
Artists
Will say that
Numbing cream
Changes the skin texture
Which it does
It makes it more rubbery
Anytime you get
Any type of numbing
It does change the consistency
Of your skin
And some artists will argue
That it affects the final product
That's the argument
Okay
The other side
Of the argument
With new age artists
Artists that are more
Like open to change
These are artists that draw on
iPads
These are artists that like
Use social media
Properly
Artists that want you
To feel comfortable
I have both types
Of artists on my body
The tattooed
I actually enjoy
Both experiences
But I understand
Why some people don't
Enjoy the
One or the other
Anyways
The more new age artists
The artists that are kind of
Moving with the time
They'll say
Yes it does
Change the skin
But you can learn
To tattoo that skin
And you should learn
To tattoo that type of skin
Because the comfort
Of the customer matters
And if you can get
Like proficient with it
Then it doesn't really matter
The final product
Doesn't heal funny
If you understand
How to tattoo
When the skin texture
Is changed
Those are the two arguments
Sorry
I just hit the mic
I was not allowed
To get
To do numbing cream
For the line work
Especially
Because this artist
Was just not comfortable
Drawing lines
In skin that had
Yeah
It's gatekeeper artists
And in the American
Traditional world
There are a lot of gate
There are more gatekeeper
Artists than not
So if you want to get
American traditional
If you want to come to me
And ask me
I've had quite a few artists
I can tell you
Which ones are gatekeeper
And which ones aren't
From my experience
But yeah
There's a lot of gatekeeper
Artists
Especially in the
In the American
Traditional world
I will say
With numbing cream
The one thing
That I will warn you about
Is it wears off
Okay
And if it wears off
Which it will
Within like the first hour
And a half ish
The artist
If they don't have
Lidocaine spray
It's a rude awakening
So
Bro
They're so weird
About numbing cream
Artists get
Really fucking weird
About numbing cream
You have to ask
Ahead of time
Because people
Some artists
I don't know
I didn't know this
But I'm learning this
After the fact
After I've gotten more tattoos
The first American tattoo shop
I went into
And dealt with
They're known
They're infamously known as
The most unapproachable shop
In like America
There's like three
That are incredibly unapproachable
In the
In the traditional tattoo world
And they like it that way
It's Smith Street in New York
Which I think they've recently
Changed their name
I think the owners
Like had a tiff or something
But it was Smith Street tattoo in New York
Spotlight tattoo in L.A.
And St. Mark's in L.A.
So me and Ian get tattooed by
Joshua Marks
Who owns St. Mark's
And I've asked him before
Why
He is so unapproachable
And he said to me
Like I don't want somebody's
Grandma or aunt coming in
To ask to get tattooed
Which I
Hey, I don't know why
I'm like hey man
He
When you get on the spectrum
Of artists that are trying to
Like they're very
There's some artists that really believe
That like
If you open up the world
Of American traditional tattooing
To too many people
It ruins the
The art
Or ruin
It will like destroy the
Sanctity of it
It's very
I don't know
It's very gatekeeping
It's kind of like
You know when you get into
Certain music scenes
Same thing
Not all of them are like that
Austin Maples
The guy who
American traditional is huge
But it is hugely
Not approachable
I would say
Neotraditional is very approachable
And is
I would argue bigger than
American traditional
When I say American traditional
I mean like
They're pulling flash from like
Higgs and Ed Hardy
Off the wall
Type of like
And drawing it
You know
To be as identical as possible
Like hardcore American traditional
There's American traditional
And then there's like
Neotrad
I don't really even know
What you would call
Austin Maples
Maybe it is Neotrad
What's this guy's name
Jud Bowman
He's in Hawaii now
He's super approachable
He
I've noticed a lot of the
Approachable ones don't do
A lot of color
But
He's really approachable
And Austin Maples
Is expensive as fuck
But is also approachable
In Edmonton
Where I get tattooed
Easy Tiger Tattoo
Is their amazing artists
And they're super approachable
So there are approachable
Artists in the scene
But it is harder to find
And if you
Want to have like
A good experience
I would recommend like
Going on Reddit threads
Reading other people's experiences
With specific artists
Because it can be
Rough
And sometimes you're just in it
I went to a woman
For my first traditional tattoo
And she messed it up so bad
That's sad
That
Yeah, blown out
And she was rude
I went to a dude
To do my thigh
And he was so sweet
It's an absolute beauty
The sad thing is
Internalized misogyny
Really
Ruined some
Unfortunately some
Like people in the scene
Because I think they're so
Concerned with like
Being respected in that scene
That sometimes they can
Come off as even more
Unapproachable than
The men that are
Gatekeeping in that scene
I've been
I was tattooed by my
Finally
By my first female artist
I have
An apprentice that did
Some line work on me
She was technically
The first person to tattoo me
But she was still like
Learning very much so
So like
The first artist
Female artist that I've
Ever been tattooed by
I got tattooed by last week
And her name's Corbie
And she was amazing
Super soft hands
Really good
Technically great execution
In such a cute
Piece she drew me
A little cuppy
A prairie cuppy
I also checked Instagram posts
I sometimes DM the clients
And yes
That's a
Really good idea
Actually
It feels so good
When they finish
And say I sat like a rock
I love being told
That I sat like a rock too
Yeah
I feel like I'm kind of
Sympathetic to the gatekeeper types
Not wanting their craft
To be totally commodified
I get it
I'm the same
I don't
I have a hard time
Sharing it online
Because I know it's not
A popular opinion
But like
I sympathize with both sides
Which is why I have both
Sides on my body
Like
You're not going to find someone
Who's more passionate
About American traditional tattoos
Than Josh
Who works at
One of the least approachable shops
Right
He cares a lot
And I get it
I mean
Bro's been doing it
Since he was a teen
And you know
Has studied under
Like very respectable
Artists
But
I also get the other side
Of like wanting to make
Your own flash
And wanting to be
Your own person
You know
And
You know
Like Ian got
A tattoo from
Liprat
Who's in Edmonton
And
Liprat is
You know
Very technically sound
Great artist
And he's doing his own
Versions of
Like his own
Complete designs of
Flash
That are meant to look good
With like
Traditional traditional flash
And I respect that too
I get it
There's a difference between
Gatekeeping and protecting
The medium
From being ruined
That's true
I just
I guess what I'm sympathetic towards
Is like
I get
Wanting to protect it
And maybe
It's sometimes coming out
The wrong way
If that makes sense
Do you keep Ethan
In that cage?
Yeah he's right there
I turn him into a dowd
Sorry
The surgeon
Texted me and asked me
If I was
Okay
Is that normal in America
For surgeons to like
Text you and be like
Hey what's up
Cause I've had
I've had that at the dentist
And the oral surgeon
Mmm
Thank you
Oh
Grayson
I read that properly
I think
I've never gotten a follow up
That's interesting
Oh after surgery
It's required
Huh
Learn something new every day
Yeah there's
So right now
Man
I don't know why
I'm geeking out about this
Right now
But there is a discussion
Right now
About whether or not
There's a tattoo
Recession
Happening
I think there's just
A recession in general
Happening
Like nobody wants
To spend money
But on top of that
Like the people
That I've seen talk about
There being a tattoo
Recession
Are just bad artists
Like I think
That there's so much
Discovery now
And people can
Like look online
And pick and choose
Like good artists
That they just
I mean
It's just like
Survival of the
The fittest
Yeah
There's a
There's this whole discussion
On whether or not
There's like a tattoo
Recession
I just think that
People are
Getting smart
With their money
And like
You can see things
Online
And some tattoo artists
Aren't using social media
And
I mean
It's hard to get tattoos
And living is so hard
And anyone
With Amazon tools
Is broadcasting
Yeah
No, that's true
Things are going well
For my friend
Who's a tattoo apprentice
Over here
Yeah, I think
More so what it is
Is
It
Cause like
I've seen some people
Who are talking about it
Showing off the tattoos
They're like
Yeah, I
Had the worst experience
At this place
And
He was rude
And shitty
And unapproachable
I hate my tattoo
And they're saying
All these things
That are like valid
But
They show the tattoo
And I'm like
Oh, that's just
A bad artist
Like
That's just bad
Like
It's like
Completely blown out
Like the lines
Are like shaky
And shit
It's not
There's
The color
Isn't deposited
In it properly
And I feel bad
For people
Because like
The thing that
She ends up picking up on
Is that
The experience
She thinks she doesn't like
The tattoo
Because the experience
Was bad
But the tattoo
Is just bad
And those people
Aren't getting business anymore
Because people are getting
Smarter
With what a good tattoo
Looks like
And what a good
Experience looks like
As someone who's
Actively looking into
Tattoo artists
With styles and flash
That I like
I could believe it
I'm being very picky
And that's great
I love that
Like
I don't know
I love that
You can like
Browse people's flash
Putting
The little
Mini stories
On their
Instagram profile
That you can like
The snackable browsing
Where you can like
Just click on something
And be like
Here's flash
Here's five years healed
Here's you know
That's what
Is going to get
People in the door
Like I'd rather wait
Years
To find a good artist
Than just
Go and
Go and get
What I want
And have it be shitty
That needs to be
Touched up
Yes
It's way too much of a risk
And back in the day
It used to be like
There's my local tattoo shop
That I need to go to
Like the first tattoo
I ever got
Was when I was 18
And I was like
I really want something
I want a tattoo
That was the initial thought
And then I was like
I should get something
For my uncle
And grandfather
And grandmother
Who passed away
And
I went onto the website
Because it was the only
Tattoo shop I knew existed
I went onto the website
I browsed their portfolios
It's not that I didn't like it
But I didn't love it
You know what I mean
And I just picked the one that I
Thought looked the coolest at the time
And he did watercolor
Birds on me
And I didn't even really like it
At the time
Do you know what I mean
Like the only thing that was
Kind of keeping me going with it
Or feeling okay about it
Was like the meaning behind it
But I got it
I mean I'm getting it
Lasered off now
So
Yeah the flash stories are awesome
I love that shit
Also just got a sick eagle flash
On my chest
I fucking love that
The eagle on the chest
Is so classic
I like
I like what I have on my chest
But sometimes like
Just feel like it could have been
I don't know
More readable
But I think anytime you get a tattoo
Like you
You always like look at it
And go like oh I should have
I think the problem is
Like because my husband is also
Getting tattooed
Sometimes I look at his tattoos
And I'm like man
I should have gotten that one
Pickiness isn't always about the
Style and concept
And people forget that
When it comes
Time to do permanent work
Sometimes that's true as well
Yeah
Yeah
The experience is important
Like everything's a story right
Like everything is
You're commemorating stuff
On your body
So
Something about having to be
The most tattooed person
In the room changes you
It's true
Whether it be a bog
On the patreon today
I think so
I think so
Let me ask Ian
He's traveling today
And I think maybe that's why it's delayed
I'm pretty sure we recorded
Let me just text Ian and ask him
Is there a bog
Big bog episode
Going out today
Thank you Grayson
Thanks for hanging out
Ian's photo real eagle is super sick
The more traditional styles
Can look a little too
Wait
What?
Ian has like the
Just the traditional
It's like the most traditional
Ian's got the classic eagle
The one that's like on
He's got one with the flag
Oh you can't really see
Merlin's cage is
Covering it
Yeah it's the classic like eagle
Man Merlin's snoozing
This but
I do plan to get it
Well
Probably eventually
I do plan to get a neck tattoo
I'll probably do something
On the side first
Throat is like
Seems like such a commitment
And so painful
But the next like
What I would call like
Money piece tattoo
That I'm gonna get
Is my hands
I'm gonna get a post it
Butterflies
Traditional butterflies on my hands
That'll be the next like
I know it's a three day streak
It's crazy
Yes
Traditional looks like a sticker
That's the whole point
Yeah
It's gonna go hard
I'm really excited about it
The butterflies
It just is such a classic
Look
I was either gonna
Put them on my hands
Or on my neck
And I've decided my hands
Thank you squishy
Yeah he's chilling
Yeah
The hand tattoos
So someone explained to me
The reason my hand tattoos hurt
Especially on the fingers
Is because they actually have to go
Deeper into the skin
Than anywhere else on the body
To like make it stay
I love shitty stick and poke
Personally
I don't know
I love all tattoos
I think
Like if somebody's willing to
Modify
Like their skin in that way
It's always cool
I just
I don't know
It's an experience
It's also like
You're just going in and
It's like a
It really is
Like even if you get a tattoo
A small one where it's not
Like visible
Most of the time
It is like such a
Cool experience
Like for your self esteem
To be like
I fucking did that
Oh lord!
She's streaming!
I am
Agree
My friend does stick and poke
And
They have
My
Whole right foot
For stick and poke stuff
Oh shit
That probably hurts so bad
On the foot
Aw
Elijah
That's nice
I lost 110 pounds
And I'm now 200 pounds
And love hearing about how
It hurts
100 pounds
And love hearing about health journeys
That's fucking awesome
Yeah, Ian's
Health journey
I got a
Recommended one of his old videos on my
YouTube suggested
Today
And I was like
Shocked at how thin
He actually was
And how different
He's like a
Totally different human being
Which is like
Good for real life
But bad for the internet
And that's kind of been
What we've been
Wrestling with for the past
Like four years
Like
Every time
Ian gets better
Like whether it be
Physically
Or mentally
Or like his relationships
In real life
Like, you know
Anytime there's an improvement
It feels like the internet
Like
Gets more and more
Allergic to him
And it's hard to like
Hide those improvements
Like it's hard to
You know, keep doing the same thing
When you're
Body and brain
Everything has kind of like
Moved on
And it's like this weird dance
That you have to do of like
Okay, well
I'm happier
This is Ian
I'm pretending to be
Ian, like I'm happier
But
Like
You know what I mean
Like the internet is not happy
About that
And that's like a weird
Thing to kind of
I don't know
They're just jealous of him
I was a huge fan of his
Years ago
But it makes me so happy
To see y'all happy
And moving forward with your interest
Thank you
That means a lot
People on the internet
Want to see people fall
And then they
Can stomp on them
It's so shitty
Yeah, that's really what
I think
The best way to put it
I feel like
Maybe I should wait
Until this ad break is done
It's like
50 seconds more
Cause I
I do have like
Thoughts about that
I mean we process it every day
Like we're thinking
Obviously it's our lives
So we're thinking about it
Like pretty often
I wonder if I can like
Is that like weird
I'm trying to figure out
How to make it
So like
Maybe
Meh
I don't know
I don't know if that works
Okay, it's done in 14, 13, 12 seconds
No, I don't hate
Hoob
Duh
Hoob
This is what got me in trouble
The first time
Okay
Was you and your antics
Ad watchers derogatory
Okay
So this is what it feels like
Whoa
Some dumb bitch
Thank you so much
Oh my god
Thank you for gifting two subs to
Boreal, Apple and Gordy Cakes
Gordy Cakes
Thank you so much
It feels like
So
The decision to do
OnlyFans
It came at a time when
All this stuff is so interesting to me
Sorry
It
That's a great question
I completely forgot about
Oh Ian forgot about the bog
I think he's gonna upload it
Once he's home
So it'll probably be late
Okay
So
When me and Ian were
Like mid-relationship
People really cared about my
Clipping my stream
Because Ian wasn't really a share
At all back then
And I think people wanted
Something
They wanted something
You know, more
And so my stream was kind of where people
Could go
If they wanted to like
Make assumptions
Or like try and draw
Drama
Drama up
So I would get clipped a lot
And you're live
And you're sharing things
And like not everything is curated
And sometimes things come out wrong
Or whatever
So I was getting clipped a lot
And
It was causing
A lot of stress
In our
Like relationship
It was causing a lot of stress in my life
I was paranoid
Every time I streamed
I felt like I could
I could say less and less
Because I was afraid
Of like things getting clipped
Out of context
Or just clipped in general
And like put in a
500,000 viewed video
About how I hate
Pyrocynical
Or whatever the topic was
That
You know
Weak
And
It got to the point where
I was like miserable streaming
I was really
I was spending a lot of time
Debating
Quitting
And
Ian was like
Well maybe
Like there's something else
You want to do
Like maybe there's like
Another avenue online
Where you can like
Make money
And be happy
And
You know
Still
Still do this
But without streaming anymore
And I quit
I quit streaming basically
And I started doing
Only fans
That was like
To us
It seemed like such a
Great idea
It was just starting to get traction
I would have been one of the first
To like get in the door
And
Neither of us were insecure
About like me doing it
I would argue
I was more insecure about doing it
Because I have like
Body image issues and stuff
But we thought it would be
Great for like
My self-esteem
And proving to myself
Like I can do something like this
And
So
And we thought like
There would be certain people
That would be upset about it
But like
The reaction that we got was so
Like
Explosive
It really knocked us
Off of our like
It just
Everything went for a loop
And the timing was really bad
Because my dad had just
You know
Started to really decline
In
My parent
Or my dad
Started to really decline in
Mental ability
Because of his Alzheimer's
And
It just felt like
The internet was waiting
For Ian to trip
Does that make sense?
They were waiting for Ian to trip
So like they could get on top
And just start like
Ripping
That's when it all started
Because it was something
It was something
Right
Something that would have
I really believe would have been
Small for most people
But because
Ian had
Such little information
About his actual self on the internet
This was something
Because like
I don't think people understand
Like Ian's
Name
Birthday
Like siblings
All of that is like
Completely false on the internet
He had never shared
Anything about himself
Ever
And I think people were
Waiting for something
And once that happened
It kind of
It became
We just became really aware of like
What
Ian had
And when I say Ian
I mean
We
Essentially had created
Which was like
It was a very hungry pack of dogs
It's basically like Ramsey Bolton
From like
Game of Thrones
Right
Like
They don't give a shit
Like who they're
Consuming
Who they're ripping apart
Like they just want something
To rip apart
And even more delicious
That it's like
The person that was taking care of them
For so long
Do you know what I mean
And that
Has been something that has been
Really hard
Emotionally
Like mentally to
Wrap
Our heads around
Because it feels like
There's nothing
Right
Like
Now it's just
Any time
There's any attempt to like
Get up
You know
It's like
Fish to
Or shark to blood
Or whatever
Where
Like
They just come back
Like
Like podcasts
They're there
You know
This stream
I'm sure will get clipped
And whatever
It's very dedicated
Like there's
Hate videos
Get more views
Than like
You know
Ian's videos
At this point
Which is
You know
It's interesting
Crazy to me
That people can see
Ian
Get a beautiful girl
Who's confident enough
To do
Only fans
And immediately call
It's weird
We weren't
I just
We weren't prepared for that
At all
But
The hate is crazy
How do none of these people
Have anything better to do
Some of them are very dedicated
Like crazy dedicated
Some of them like
Subscribe to the Patreon
And everything
And are clipping that
Which I mean
Hey
We
We try to keep
Like the more
Salacious stuff
Behind Patreon
So like less people
Are just seeing it
Because we don't want to put
Some blasts
We just
Want to share
With the people
Who care
But there
I mean
They're finding it
And then publicizing it
Which I mean
That's there
Hey
If that's how
You want to spend
Your five bucks
Sure
Damn
So you feel like
Every time
You go to work
There's a mob
Of people
Who just show up
Yes
Yes
And I think
It's frustrating
Because
I think
The key
That feels good
To like
Talk to
Is to
To do it
You know
To get up
And do it
Regardless of the
Mob
And to not think
About like
That aspect
But that is
Very
Hard
Like to do
It's very hard
To like
Keep it going
It's
It's an endurance
Thing
Really
And you know
At the end of the day
Like if none of this
Works out
Like
We'll go do trades
Honestly
Like we'll probably
Move back to Edmonton
And go do like
Trades jobs
Which like
That's fine
You know
But
I would be remiss
If we didn't
Try
I would love it
If maximum damage
Like got
A good base
That you know
But you know
Not
It's a privilege
It's not a right
Thank you
Megan
Genuinely
People just
Don't have any lives
I think it's
Yeah, people are just
Having a hard
Time
I think the world
Right now is
Difficult
And I think
There's a lot of angry people
That feel like
They don't have a lot of control
And they do
Like
Look for
Outlets
And I think
Hating
For some people
Truly
Hating us is the outlet
And I
Know
I get it
It's called brain damage
Been following
Even
Slightly
Before you and Ian
Were openly dating
And you always came off cool
Sucked to see you both
Get so much
Shit for essentially
No reason
I
I think the most
Shocking thing to me
Was
When
We became public
Kind of
Not even really public
I think we just had
Our names
And each other's
Like
Instagram bios
Like
Instant hate forums
Instantly
Like within the day
And I was not ready
For that
I think
Like
I was talking
To my therapist
About this
Like
I was
Heavily
Isolated
At that
Time
And apparently
Like
When you're
Isolated
Like
And you
It
Causes the brain
To do weird things
You go into survival mode
And I was isolated
In like
Every single
Like
Definition of that word
Like
I
Was away from my family
In a country
I didn't know
The internet
Was like
Saying
That I sucked
And was not a good
Pick for
Ian
I used to get
I'm not kidding you
I used to get
Emails
To my business
Email
About
Like essays
About how
I was not a good fit
For Ian
And there were better fits
And they had like
Girls that either
Ian followed
They would like
Attach their like
Instagram to it
Or like
It was very fucking weird
So I was isolated
In that way
I was away from my family
I
I was having
I was mentally
And emotionally
Having a really hard time
At that time
And
I tried to push through
Online
And it was not working
At all
And
I
It sucks
Because I
There's a piece of me
That's like
I wish I just
Pushed
Because I think
I would still have
Like an okay audience
And I think I could have
Made it out
But I did not
It was so bad
You guys like
I was like
I don't know
Regularly going into
The fucking gym
And just lying on the floor
Crying
Like it was so bad
And like
A lot of my regular viewers
Know that
Like it was really bad
But hey
You know
It was hard
And it's
The ironic thing is
Is that it's less hard
Now
Like
Which is strange
Because
The hate is a lot more
Prolific
And it's a lot more
Like public
But
I think maybe because
One
It's been going on for so long
But two
Like
I'm
Emotionally and mentally better
That I
I can like
Deal with it
It's weird after
I feel like after
The only fan stuff
It was like that was it
That was like
There was no like returning
There was no going back
It sounds like you're struggling
I'm rooting for you
Thank you
Hey
I appreciate that
I'm struggling a lot less now
I'm like
I'm pretty
I would say I'm pretty good
I'm doing pretty good
Seems like a step above
Like
Parasocial
Or like even stocking
It reads like
There was a group
That wanted to disrupt
Both of your workplaces
Yeah
Yes
Yeah
And that is like
There was one
Girl
I actually felt kind of bad
For her
She ran
Like
Like the hate
There was like hate
Instagrams
And Twitter's
Like making fun of my face
Shape and shit
And
Just me in general
I guess
And like clockwork
Every morning
And every night
I would get spam
Hate stuff to me
For years
This wasn't like
It was for years
It was like maybe two or three years
And I had a friend
That was like
Pretty like tech savvy
And I didn't ask them to do this
They did this on their own
I kind of wish they didn't
Because it really depressed me
But they figured out
Who owned those accounts
Through like reverse
I don't know
Snooping
And it turned out to be like
A 16 year old girl
That like
Was an honors student
At her like
School
In like the middle of America
And her like
Facebook
Had like
Ian playing in the sand
From like a Joji vlog
Or something
And she had spent
Three years
Three
Under different accounts
She'd make a bunch of
Sock accounts
She'd make a bunch of
Hate accounts
And it was sad
Because it's like
I don't know man
So I had quite a
Like you know
It was a group
It was a dedicated group
That seemed a lot
Louder than it was
And I kind of
I kind of miss it
Like it was very uncomfortable
And very like
Weird
But I kind of miss it
Because now
Like
It's not like a group
That's like
Section to like
Pretty little liars
Or like
You know
Lol cow or whatever those things
Now it's like
You can go on YouTube
And if you search like
My name or Ian's name
It's like
A bunch of like
You know hate video
I didn't
It sounds really weird
But I didn't understand
How good I had it
Like back then
Until like now
You know
But now like
You become so numb to it
That it's
It really is kind of like
I mean
A lot of it's really crazy
Like there's a lot of
Crazy
Crazy speculation
That like is just so
One of them
I remember someone
How to basic asked Ian
Like is Jake Paul
Really trying to
Steal
A creator clash
And Ian was like
What the fuck
Are you saying
Like what
What is that
And apparently
There was a video
That someone made
Where they were saying
That like Jake Paul
Was trying to steal
A creator clash from us
Or was buying it from us
Or like some
Some weird
There's some
Really strange shit out there
That one was funny though
How to basic
Was he really trying to
Steal
A creator clash
Huh?
I think maybe that
Speculation comes from
Our head of boxing
Operations
We found him
And brought him on
He's our business partner
He's he
Co-owns
Creator clash with us
Jake Paul's
Handler
I don't know what to call
Manager I guess
Nakisa
What really liked
What we did
And really liked Mike
And wanted to bring him on
For Jake Paul's boxing career
To be a boxing consultant
So now he works
For both of us
I don't know
I think that's where it comes from
But
Any advice on dealing with the anxiety
Go to open
To like open gym
Because then you can just
Walk in and like hit the bag
And kind of like
People will approach you
Boxing the boxing community
Is very like
Open
They want people to come in
It's very sweet
For the most part
I'm not going to speak for
Every gym but
It's weird to me that commentary
YouTube people
That just wants to tear down
Other people
It's upsetting
I mean
I don't want to be like
This person
But
It
Their view
Their videos that do well
Often have Ian in the thumbnail
So
I mean
I guess there's incentive for it
When people
I think get sick of it
It will like
Kind of die down
But until people get sick of it
Which
Who knows when that will be
Maybe never
But it is interesting
Oh thank you
Thanks Mui
I really uh
I don't know
It's sick
I love getting compliments
On them
This is my favorite arm
They're starting to kind of age
A bit
Which is really exciting to me
Yeah
Boxing communities
Is generally
Very supportive
I've been trying to get into
Weight training
And general health improvement
And y'all are like
My role models
Oh my god
My tattoos
And overall aesthetic
Oh
I love hearing that
Man
The gym
Muscle mass
It's important
It's good for everything
It's good for aging
It's good for keeping your bone density up
It's
It's
Yeah
If there's one thing
You should do for yourself
Even if it's just body weight
Exercises
Like
Doing some form of
Like weight lifting
Is good for women and men
Would Ian do only fan
We've talked about it before
He kind of has
I don't know how much information
I can give
Like
Like hand
Cameos
Shit
I don't want to get in trouble
But I don't know
Maybe
I've really slowed down on that
Just
Mostly because
We're moving around a lot
And there's a lot of things going on
But
And then I got my ex-plant
Removed
Like my implants removed
And that was like a whole thing
Yeah, we have
We've talked about it on the pod
I have met Boy Boy
Yeah
Yeah
It's so interesting
How lurkers
Like if you talk about certain things
Like the hate lurkers
They can't help it
They have to like come out
It's like pouring salt on pork
Young
Dumb suck
Says
You can tell who that is
That's like a hate watcher
That's like here to like farm
They're like
And they can't help it
They have to like say
They're stupid
Like one line things
It's like
Just draws them up
They're foaming at the mouth
Yeah, it's crazy
Yeah
Yeah, I know
It takes a lot of energy
I think it's just
I don't know
There's a lot going on in there
I learned that about
I think that's just the way it is
When you feel like you don't have a lot of control
In your life
Which to be honest
Like how many of us feel like
We have control in our lives right now
We're in a very like
Chaotic time
You
You do things to try and get control
And for some people
That's looking for confirmation bias
In a person that they've chosen
To hate online
They like remove the humanity
From the person
And they like look at the online
Projection
And then they like
Take what they want from it
To like confirm
It is really interesting
Some people really like
When they comment on stuff
In like on my socials and stuff
Like they truly hate
They hate me
They truly hate me
Or they truly hate Ian
And to get to that point
I would argue that like
The hate is so visceral
It's like past any
In real life person that they know
And I think that's just
Because they keep confirming their bias
Right
They'll take what they want out of
I mean even
One of my
We were talking about
On the podcast
I've talked about it on the bog
But I'll talk about it here
We were
Getting
We had a frivolous lawsuit thrown at us
And it was looming over us
For like a year
A year and a half
After we like lost money
On the second
Creator clash
There was this fucking asshole
This asshole
Who
So back when we were trying
To make Creator clash
And it was just like a concept
Right
It wasn't a thing at all
We knew that we had to get
Like a promoter
Or someone who knew boxing
To help us
And we had some meetings
With some people
And one of the meetings
That we had
This person tacked themselves on
Without us knowing
They're like a merch fulfillment
Asshole
Not online
Not like any
Nobody would know who this person is
Dick, though
He comes in
We have a meeting
It does like a
15-minute presentation on his business
That no one asked for
At all
Right
Gave his number to Ian
At the end of the meeting
We didn't take
We didn't text him ever
But there was someone
At the meeting that we did like
And we texted them
And we got to know them
And we ended up working with them
Only had one meeting
With this person
Didn't even know they were showing up
Didn't want them to show up
Don't care
To be honest
Don't care
First
Creator clash happens
Great
Everything's great
We don't hear anything
Second
Creator clash happens
We get
An email
From a lawyer
That is accusing us
Of wrongfully pushing
This person out of the business
Okay
That's the email we got
That this person had a right
To part ownership of the business
And
So it became a shakedown
Because
He knew that he didn't have
A part of the business
He knew it
But the threat of
Going to court
Would cost us so much
Fucking money
And he knew it
Even if he lost
Because he doesn't have any money
That fucker
Doesn't have any
Money
Anymore
Okay
Because he's made bad business decisions
We found out after the fact
So he was hoping that
You know
If he
We were basically playing chicken
Of like fine
Fucking like
So we were going back and forth
For like months
Of like
Fine
Take us to fucking court
Because if we would have went to court
He would have lost
But we would have been out money
So basically
What he was hoping for
Was that we were going to pay him
To go away
So it was a shakedown
It was a frivolous lawsuit
When we were
Telling them
We lost money
Like one
Because he wanted
The things that he was asking for
He ended up asking for like
$250,000
Which I was like
I'll give you one
Dollar
I'll give you one
He was asking for $250,000
And he was arguing that
It's for lost salary
And lost
Earnings
From the event
We explained to him
We don't take a salary
Buddy
So even if you had part ownership
There would be
Your salary that you take is zero
Okay
And then
We said also
Like we don't have any money
You're sniffing up the wrong tree
Like we lost money on this event
His lawyer
Not our lawyer
There was like this commentary
Fucking
He's so annoying
This commentary YouTuber
Like I don't know if he can't
Like listen
Or like what's wrong with his brain
But we explained this
In the Patreon podcast
This person's lawyer
The shakedown lawyer
Used a commentary
Video
Okay
That
That insinuated
Insinuated
I have to be very careful with my words here
Because this person will say technically
They didn't say that
Insinuated
That we pocketed money
Insinuated that we didn't actually lose money
Okay
Insinuated that it only costs
$100,000 to run an event like this
Which is not true
Okay
This is in the millions
This event costs
In the millions to run
I'm not kidding
It's fucked up
Okay
And that all
Is our responsibility
We took that on because we wanted to do something fun
And cool
And good for charity
And whatever
It is a very expensive event to run
There's a lot that goes on
Okay
It's a huge thing
It's a 20,000 seat arena
Anyways
The lawyer used
The YouTube video
To say that this was proof
That we were pocketing money
So the point that I was making with that clip
That got taken out of context again
Or like he just didn't understand what I was saying
Is that we were in a shakedown lawsuit
And part of the reason why they thought
That they could sniff
Bark up our tree
Was because commentary YouTubers
Have no idea what it is
To work a normal job
Let alone
Put on a whole event
Okay
You have no clue
You don't even know
What it's like to clock in
And have someone breathe down your neck
So don't tell me
How much it costs
A hundred thousand dollars
Does not even cost one quarter
Of the broadcasting fees
So like
I don't know what crack
These like commentary YouTubers
Are on
But I want some
No I know this is going on
I love how I didn't wear makeup today
I look disgusting as shit
But this will go on every con
And I don't care
I don't care
I don't care anymore
Because even when we don't say something
Even when we don't say something
They think we're saying something
Do you know what I mean
Oh thanks guys
Thank you
Yeah
They're gonna assume shit
So I'm so over it
And I'm over them crying
They cry
Like they're the victims
Bro
You made a video
With all these weird out of pocket assumptions
Like
Just so out of pocket
I don't know
I know a lot of them have never worked a real job
I know that for a fact
And if you have
You worked there for a week
And you cried
And you quit
That's the other thing
That a lot of these people assume
Is that I
Never worked a real job
But I didn't get on the internet
Until I was 21
I had to pay for my own
I was in college
Working
Like a fucking serving job
Okay
I was doing both
I had four to five classes
A semester
And then I would go work a serving job
Okay
And before that
I worked at a pet store
And a dairy queen
Because I
Because I function in society
And then I got lucky
Right
I got lucky
And I started making money on the internet
So I quit
But I've been working
I had been working
Since I was like 12
I'm not even kidding
12 years old
Because in Canada
At the time
I don't know if now
But at the time
When your parents sign
Your
You can sign something
You can work
I worked at a movie theater
When I was a kid
But I
You fuckers
That are looking at this
Right now
I know
I know that you would fucking cry
If I said something to you
In real life
I know you would cry
How do I know?
Because I've done it to one of you
Fuckers
In real life
And you have cried
You cried and apologized to me
And you even said
That I made you feel like a bitch
And I'm glad that I did
To be honest
More people should do that to you
So
There's an ad break
Oh, I did it to her
I did it to her
I'm gonna add break
Yeah, I don't know
I don't
I, yeah
So I don't feel bad anymore
And I'm not
I'm just not scared
I work as a maintenance man
At an assisted living facility
And deal with a lot of crazy stuff
Lol, as someone in the industry
Do you think making videos
About all the crazy shit
I have to fix could do well
I think so
I think as long as you're minding
The privacy of the people that are
You know, staying there
I think it could be very interesting
My fucking computer just shit itself
I don't like people bragging
How being enslaved in shitty jobs
And describing as being useful
For society
I mean, yeah
We've all been tricked into like
Trying to cope in different ways
I try not to blame people that are like
Slaves to capitalism
And have to like work
Fucking 80 work weeks
80 hour work weeks
You know, however they want to cope
They want to cope but
They felt like a little bitch
It's because they are
Slash war one
It's like I
That was great
That one was crazy to me
Ian put that clip at the end of the
Froggy fresh video
But that one like I
That pissed me off dude
That one Ian wasn't
Ian was Ian keeps me
This is the truth
Okay
Ian keeps me on a leash
Okay
And I'm okay with that
Because I need to be on a leash
I need to be on a leash
A tight leash to be honest
Because I am unhinged
I will just say shit
So we're at the party
After the boxing event
Where like it's meant for everybody
To like celebrate each other
And what we did
And you know we did karaoke
And whatever
There's alcohol there
And close friends are allowed
At this party
It's in a hotel
Okay
And this fucker
Snuck in
He was not supposed to get in
The reason why he got in
Was because he happened to say
By accident the name of one of our like
Higher ups
And was like oh
Justin said I could get in
Right
And so they gave him a wristband
So he got in
And I saw on Twitter the day before
That he was tweeting shit
Right
He was like putting
He was doing that thing
Where you don't like fully commit
To being a fuck
But like enough of a fuck
That like he basically wore like
A free froggy fresh shirt
Or like held the sign or something
I think he had a Krispy Kreme shirt on
Or some shit
And he was like
There was like a free froggy fresh sign
That like made it to the front
Of the like walk out
Of Ian's walk out
And he like tweeted the picture
No it wasn't Brandon Buckingham
It was fucking
I always call him Rusty Spoon
But I think his name is Rusty Cage
He was snuck into the party
Okay
So Ian wasn't around
Much like right now
Which is why I'm doing this right now
Ian wasn't around
He was somewhere else
And I saw that fucker
I saw him waiting in line
Waiting in line for free alcohol
And I was like absolutely not
Absolutely not
So I fucking walked over there
And bro's like little
Okay he's already like a small guy
And I had platforms on
So I was real big that day
And I walked over
And I just put my hand on his shoulder
Right I leaned over
And I said
Hey man
What you did yesterday
Really fucking uncool
Actually
And he was like
Like he was shocked
Right and he even admits this
He admits that he
He apologized to me
He's like I'm sorry I didn't mean it
And I was like no you meant it
That it was shitty
And I fucking walked away
I just walked away
I was like whatever
You can fucking stay at the party
But I want you to know
That I think you're a fucking dick
And it clearly
It clearly got to him
Because he ended up in like
Some interview later
Saying that it made him feel like a bitch
Why would you admit that
I don't know anyways
Yeah so that's why I need to be on a leash
Because I
I need to be
Right that's the truth of it
That made me so mad though
Like you
You are
Why are you drinking our alcohol
At least he had the shame to admit
That he used to be a bitch
Yeah that's true
No yeah it was
It was because
I don't like the playing both sides thing
I really don't
It's not cool
The like half commitment
You know
Where like you're like
Retweeting stuff
Or like putting stuff out there
Or like you know
Wearing clothes
You know
You know
You know
You know
You know
Or like you know
Wearing a Krispy Kreme shirt
At the thing
It's like
You are not cute
To the people who matter
The people like
Who actually care about like
You know
They'll see it
And they know who you are
Even if you're not gonna
You might as well fully commit
Yeah be a hater or don't
That's the thing
Just commit
Commit
You know
I have more respect
At least like
Some of these fuckers
Will like go around full out
You know
Just saying it
Just commit
Yeah
It's yeah
It's all of them
They all kind of want to like
Keep the door open
Do you know what I mean
They want to keep that door open
At all times
And it's
It's not respectable
To be honest
Yeah
That's a good way to put it
Who is just desperately wanting to be
Liked
I think recently
He like fake
Guillotine himself
And now hasn't been on the internet
I don't know
Maybe he'll come back
If you see this clip
Yeah I don't know
It's fucking weird though
So the truth is
I'm the one who needs to be on a leash
Okay
And I am usually on a leash
But I
You know
If I'm gonna go live again
This is what it is
Yeah they want to keep the DMs open
Yeah
No you gotta be feral
It's so real
Like having my HRH moment
It's therapeutic
It is
It's very therapeutic
Because
Sometimes it
It makes me
Like
It just makes me so mad
It's like who the fuck
Like
We're trying
We're just trying to
Like
Have fun and exist
That's the truth of it
Like we're just trying to have fun and exist
There's no political agenda
There's no like
You know
Playing the field
Or trying to make the most money
The
The reason why Ian does anything
That he's been doing
Is because he's been leading with like
What he thinks is right
And what he wants to do
That's where it ends
And I think like for some people
That is so out of the realm
Of like possibility
Like they can't imagine it
They can't fathom it
So they have to like
Tack on all these like
Fake
Like dubious things
Do you know what I mean?
Ian was mentioned that a doc
Was made about CC1
That ever be released
It's so
There's a lot of things that are kind of like
Cooking
One of the things that
We've been thinking about doing is
You know a third creator clash
And doing a documentary
After all three
So that's kind of why we're holding on to that
Originally
Dane was editing the
It's kind of cool
Because we can talk about Dane
And like people know who
Dane is now fully
Like on both sides
Because Dane obviously is a popular YouTuber
But people in Ian's circle don't know him as much
But we gave Dane the footage
For creator clash one
And he just struggled
He just he
He wasn't inspired to make anything
So that's why it kind of halted
Um
But
I think like a
Doing all three
And having like a little
Nightcap on it would be
It has to be therapeutic
To tell the truth about your life
When people lie about you all the time
Or try to manipulate your image
And who you are
Or who your husband is
And does
Um
You want to stand up for yourself in some way
Without validating the behavior
Prompted you to do so
Yes it is
It is it's very hard
Because anytime I
I do want to say something
Or clear something up
Or like kind of rebuttal
There's like a lot of people that are like
Why are you giving it attention
Like this is why it happens to you
But the truth is like
That's not why it happens to me
And the attend
Or to us and the
The attention
Giving it attention
It doesn't matter because they
They don't actually care
They actually don't care
And I have been dealing with this
Since
2016
And there was a long time
Where I didn't talk about it at all
And it was still a problem
So like
I think
Like being able to talk about it
Is at least better than just like
I don't know whatever the fuck I was
We have been doing
Even if it was the reason why it happens
To you guys
If these same fuckers were in the position
You guys got in
They would want to speak truth to
I actually think most people
Not most people but those people
Specifically if they were even
Remotely in any type of situation
That me and Ian are in
They would have folded so fucking fast
They would have folded
They wouldn't have made it
In whatever way that means
Quitting the internet
Quitting fucking
They wouldn't have made it
You need a lot to go right
To withstand this type of shit
You need solid relationships
You need like an okay self-esteem
You need like a
Just like a fucking
Pervasive like a can-do attitude to be honest
It's just like a lot of things that like
Those types of people just don't
Possess to be honest
Yeah I can already see the thumbnail
Anisa, IWGF, unhinged
Yeah they won't even put my name in there though
Yeah I've tried every method
And some people just don't care
About your perspective at all
Yes
Yeah they don't care
So I don't care
That's kinda where I'm at
They don't care
I don't care
Hey
We can both live on our own realities
Your reality
I'm a horrible witch
That's ruined everything
That you hold dear
And in my reality
You're a fucking asshole
So we both, you know, hey
For me personally
If I knew a large majority of the internet
Hated me
I'd be pretty miserable
It's hard
It's the thing that
Probably made it the hardest is that
It's the biggest mirror
That is in me and Ian's life
Like the most people share their opinions
Of us on the internet
In our personal life
People don't
Share their opinions about us
Other than like
Oh that video you made was cool
Or
Oh it's really nice seeing you guys
Or
You know
Your puppy's cute
Like
Nice things
You know
Nice things from our family
Supported from our family and friends
But like
The opinions
And how many there are
It's very loud
So it becomes a very large mirror
And sometimes it becomes hard
You get lost
Because you're like
Well I
Must be a piece of shit
But in reality
It's like
The mirror is so warped on here
On purpose
Because they want you to be a bad person
That like when you look into it
You look into it
And you see a hideous person
And you go
Oh my god I'm hideous
But that's not
It's
It's skewed
It's not a real mirror
Bye Elijah
I never hated you guys
I just didn't know anything
Beyond the stories
From those stupid commentary guys
I can't stand
Yeah that's the
I think probably
The most frustrating thing
About all of it
Is like
There's so much misinformation
And the stories get telephoned
So heavily
That like
Like I think now
The story is like
Yeah
It gets so
Fucked
And the
The first
The first
The first
iteration of it
Is a lie
And then
It just gets worse
And worse and worse
And there's no way to fight it
Because a lot of
These channels are
Like they get amplified
And how do you fight
That
You know like
I'm talking to 72 people right now
And even
Yeah
It's like you're losing
Losing a propaganda war
Yes
That's exactly what it is
Because it's like
Even okay
So I'm talking to 72 people
One of them will grab this clip
And
Twist it to whatever
Add their like
Narration to it
And then it will go out to like
400,000 people
And
And they talk so confidently
Somebody on my
Instagram comments this morning
Said Ian's on drugs
They had
Let me read this to you
Because it was so
Crazy
The response
I was like
What the
Is going on
It was on my like
Post
That just from the
Memories on my iPhone
But it says
Now he is broke
Unemployed
And on drugs
Broke
Unemployed
And on drugs
How is it even possible
To turn a man
From being a millionaire
And loved
To having
To having hate channels
Getting 10 times
Your podcast views
Next level
Personality disorder
And what did he
What did he get
In return
A manipulative tomboy
That sells her body
For a small
Monthly subscription fee
Somebody said
You need help
And they said
Which part is incorrect
This person said
He's far from broke
Or unemployed
Being unemployed
Doesn't mean that
He's not generating
Ad revenue
I doubt he's on drugs
He was just in Australia
I doubt he'd be able
To travel internationally
On drugs
This person replied to this
Confidently
They said on the
Podcast that they were broke
What
I don't know where that
Came from
His monthly views
1.2 million
Equal less than
2k per month
Which
I don't know where that's
Coming from
2k per month
In AdSense
I know
Because I have AdSense
Which everybody's
AdSense
Clicks
Per whatever
Is different
But sure
And he also said
That he's
He also said
He's on drugs
On his podcast
The rest is correct as well
Like
What am I
What do you do to that
What do you say to that
Like
Somebody was like
Trying to have a fair discussion
And they were like
Nope
All true
They said this on their podcast
Said none of that
On our podcast
That's what I feel
I feel like I'm taking
Crazy pills
Like
People
There are people out there
Who legitimately
Like
They don't see very much
About us
And the stuff that they do
See is like this shit
And then they're like
Oh
That's so sad
Ian's on drugs
But
You know
Whatever
Yeah
No I know it's true
You can't
It's just crazy
Because they start talking
To other people
And then it's like
Um
Yeah
Yeah
Ian's
Ian is
I think the
Doing drugs thing
Is getting
There um
It's uh
It's coming from the Adderall
Like he got
Diagnosed with ADHD
So he like
I don't know
In that comment
They attacked you
As a woman
Your body
And speculated on your income
And your sobriety
It's a form of delusion
They're doing
It's unfair to both
It's weird
Because they really do cook up
Yeah
I don't know
It feels like you have no agency
Cause like it doesn't matter
What we do
Like we're very happy
Very comfortable
We're like making a podcast
Because we don't have to worry
You know
That much
Like life is going to be fine
No matter what
It's very much where we're at
Right now
And
We're not promoting
The podcast very hard
And we're not like
Trying to make it like a
We're not trying to make it viral
We want it to be a slow build
Of a community
That we really like
That's like the whole point of it
And
To have people like
Tell us what is
Wrong with our lives
Or what's going on
Or why things are
The way that they are
Is very
Hard
It's very jarring
It's like the Marvel channels
That I definitely don't watch
That pull a 48 minute break
Down of a screenshot
From their asses
That's crazy
But yeah
So Ian got diagnosed with ADHD
And
Is now taking Adderall
And it's helped him
A fuck ton
It's not even that much
He's on like
5 milligrams
Slow release
Or something
Twice a day
So it equals like 10
Total
Yeah
I don't know
I think that's what they mean
By on drugs
I'm not sure
But
I don't know
Yeah
It's hard
It's hard to like
Figure out what
I thought going to therapy
Would actually make me
Want to get off the internet
Like I thought
Like I would go to therapy
And I'd be like
Oh of course
Like I need to get off the internet
But for some reason
Like therapy has made me
Want to like
Come back to the internet
I was
I love
Doing this
I love talking
I love riffing
I love
Entertaining
Um
I loved who I was
Career wise
Before
I stepped foot into
The iDubbs community
I loved that
I was so happy
In that aspect of my life
In my career
And I gave it up
Because
I thought at the time
That that was the right thing to do
I thought that it would
Stop people
From like
Obsessively
I don't know
I thought it would
I thought it was the right thing to do
And um
It's weird
Going back to therapy
Has made me realize
How much I don't want
To like let that go
Which kind of sucks
Because like I
You know I'm figuring that out now
When
You know I used to have
Like a very healthy base
And now it's like
Well what's the point
Like sometimes it feels like
What's the point
You know like
Can I even build it back up
Like should I
Should I
You know
Go do trades
Or go serve
But
I feel like I would be
Remissed
I think it's the right word
If I didn't try
It's good to delete tiktok
I mean it's going away anyways
Yeah I think it's
Dehumanizing people
They're just separating
People from
The content
And then dehumanizing
The content
And then it makes it easy
To like
Hate consume it
That's basically what happens
I agree that twitch
Is a better community
Than youtube right now
For sure
I wonder if I
Made some youtube videos
And kind of like told people
That I was streaming on twitch
If that
I wonder if
How a youtube video
On my channel would even do
Thanks Megan
I appreciate that
Yeah I don't know
I'm not sure
Yeah they definitely
I don't think they see
Me or I know for sure
They don't see me as
A person
I think they do see me
As a character
I think that
A lot of them see Ian
As their like friend
Like I think a lot of them
Think Ian is like
Sending them messages
Or something
Like the way that people
Talk about Ian is
I don't know
It's very disturbing
Really making youtube videos
But streaming the filming
That's so interesting
I feel like people here
Are more of a real community
I agree
I've always been
A twitch ho
Like I've loved twitch
I've been on twitch
Since 2014
That's the other thing
That's man
Yeah the people who say like
I like used Ian
Or I'm only relevant
Because of Ian
Or whatever
Like I'm the least relevant
I've ever been in my life
And I have been the least
Relevant I've ever been
In my career
Being attached to Ian
I was a lot more relevant
And a lot more like
Popular
Predating Ian
On here
Yeah it's crazy
I use OBS
Oh hello
Hi my wallet
It's okay
I'm just like
Venting
I'm giving
Commentary channels
New clips
That's it
I should have titled it that
Giving commentary
Youtubers
New clips
Please remember that
The same thing happened
To H3H3 over time
The people that had
At first hated
His switch
From edge content
To more interviewed
Center content came back
Because they saw
How grounded and personal
He became
The same will happen to
You and Ian
That Matt
I really really really
Really appreciate that
Optimism
And
We
We actually look to
You know
You know
You know
You know
You know
We
We actually look to
Ethan
When we're having a hard time
To be honest
Like
Sometimes like
We'll just think about like
Ian
Or Ethan did it
And Ethan's doing great
You're basically their job
They should be thankful
You're bringing
That's true
Yeah
Subscribing to the patreon
Was crazy
We were very shocked
By that one
Shocked but not shocked
I only know
Ian from creator clash
And I did not
Come up on their work
Essentially I found
The backlash
To his
To his development
Into his later adulthood
To be a form of
I want my
Friend in my head
To conform to
My behavioral choices
And beliefs
I think that's
A sound analysis
My therapist
Said it best
It's really interesting
Having a therapist
Like look into all of this
But
She said like
The types of people
Who are angry
Are people who have
Probably been told
Their whole life
That their life would be
Better if they got
A girlfriend
And they're seeing
Ian change
Because of a girl
Or like
They've decided it's
Because of a girl
And
He's like
You know
Not doing what they want
And it's
Challenging their
Like ideas
Of what
They've told themselves
Is okay
Right
Like
It kind of
Puts in their face
Again
Like you
Like especially when
People say like
Oh he's better
Or he's matured
Or whatever
Like it makes them angry
Because it's like
Why are you
Telling me
That this is like
What I need
Right
And she said
She's like
I'm not saying
They need to get
A girlfriend
But I'm saying
That that's definitely
Something that they've
Heard
Plenty of times in their
Life
And it makes them angry
Seeing
Dearly
Of like
I don't
I can be like this
I can be like
This guy
This guy's funny
This guy's great
I'm like this guy
We're friends
And then
That guy says
I actually don't really
I'm not really
Into that anymore
And then it kind of
Like
Fucks everything up
Yeah
Going outside
I think boxing
And meeting communities
And meeting people outside
Of the internet
Like
Also just life
I don't think people
Understand like
A lot has happened
To me and Ian
Outside of online
That has been very
Hard
A lot of loss
In both of our lives
Family wise
A lot of
Just upheaval
Constant upheaval
Constant change
Over the past five years
There was no way
We would have come out
The same
I just don't think
It was possible
So
And he's figuring it out
You know
I'm really proud of him
He's figuring it out
He's uploading
He's figuring out
Who he wants to be
And what he wants to put out
On the internet
And I think that he's a
Very smart and talented person
And he just needs to keep
Figuring it out
For himself
And that's
Where he's at
Hard to agree with Matt
The wave comes around
Plus with so many creators
Finding a revenue stream
Hate watching y'all
Oh, that's interesting
It's more likely
Proof of your potential
Staying power
Than proof of fate of irrelevant
That
I really like that, actually
He's literally me
Kind of behavior
With most of his old school fans
Yeah
I'm 26
And I've never been cuddled
A girl
And I've never stopped liking you
I want to clarify that
That is not
Having
Not
Having many romantic prospects
Does not mean that you are
Like one of those types of people
It's part of it
Sometimes it's not all of it
But
The point just being that like
If you can grow and change
With any friendship
Any relationships
Whether it's romantic or platonic
If you can go out there
And live life and experience things
You're doing well
It has nothing to do with
Whether or not you're having sex
I just want to like clarify that
As someone who was a fan of Ian
Back in the day
And enjoying his content
I was even happier that he grew
Into maturing
And realizing that his old content
Was pretty harmful
Just like how I realized
That type of content and humor
Can really hurt someone
Yeah, I feel like everybody
Kind of woke up a little bit
At the same time
Which is nice
Would you work a trade job
Because you need to
Or because you'd want something to do
Want something to do
For sure
I want to
Have purpose
I don't want to just be sitting around
Rotting, you know
And I think learning trades
Oh, this like fell
And it's like Fiona's feet
I think learning a trade
Would be rewarding
For sure
There are so many fans of Ian
That came up in that edgy content centered era
Eventually
They will wonder what happened to Ian
And slowly come back to him
And you as well
The things that you guys are doing
The podcast, the clash, the streams
Will be a beacon for those fans
That lost touch
That's so sweet
This is like so nice to hear
Oh, Mui, thank you so much
For subscribing
Welcome to the Sal boys
Eventually the commentary channels
Will see more and more success
And get bored
Just like they do with age 3
You have no idea how nice
That is to hear
Thank you B-Fran
Yeah, I don't know
Thanks for talking to me today guys
Because it feels super helpful
Feels super nice
And like it's
Everything else is like so wonderful
Right now
Our relationship is wonderful
Our dogs are wonderful
I'm like growing as a person
And like you know
I'm doing well
Talking to my family
And keeping in touch
I'm finding my like
Voice
I'm finding my like who I am
Like there's a lot of things that are
Coming into focus
That makes me feel really whole
And happy
So the one thing that's
That feels like it's missing is
You know
What it means as a creator
Like who we are
You know as creators
Who he is
Who I am
And that's
It would be so nice
If we could figure that out
Hi Caleb
Hi Carl
Man I'm seeing
It like makes me emotional
Seeing my like base
People here
It just
I don't know I feel so lucky
That you guys
It's been rough
I don't know
I do
I really want to stream like a lot
I want to
I miss like having community
And like inside things going on
And people hanging out
And
I don't know I miss it so much
It's been very nice
Seeing it all come back
Nature is healing
I'm so late
Hi John
We're waiting for Ian
He's coming from LA today
They had a successful filming
That's the other nice thing right
Like after
I think what people don't understand is like
After creator clash
Like we needed a rest
Like emotionally
We just stopped talking to a lot of people
Because it was just so hard
And Ian stopped collaborating with people
Not because people didn't want to collaborate with him
Or things were going on
It was just like
I don't know it was hard
And the Max and Chad stuff
Like people who like
Theorycraft about that
Forget that like
2019 COVID hit
Ian was like
Regularly seeing Max
Like once a year at least
Like we were going on like
Vacations and stuff
And then COVID hit
And we could not travel
For like two or three years
And then
You know after that
Like we were doing creator clash
And like that was like very difficult
So like
That
Not seeing Max and Chad
And how to basic and stuff
Was not
A decision made in any other way
Other than he physically could not
Fly
To Australia
He could not go
COVID had
It's like everybody forgot
That COVID happened
And travel restrictions were a thing
He could not go to Australia
They could not come here
I'll tell him as soon as he gets in the door
I'll be like do the stanky leg
It will improve
But with the direction
Of your work
In the field of content creation
Your humanity comes through
And it is informed by proper boundaries
Even if people
Such as the type of YouTubers
You've referred to
Overstep them
And misrepresent you
Staying firm in your boundaries is key
That's true
I never
Yeah I never really thought about that
But
Yeah it's just like in real life
You have to stick to your boundaries
Whatever you choose to do
As you continue your path
You have the right mindset
Wishing you both
Much continued success
Man thank you B Fran
Very emotionally intelligent
Like sound and comforting
Replies
It means a lot
I haven't gone back
To visit relatives and friends
Since COVID either
You don't realize it
Until you think about it
It was a long time
It was a long time
When the only fan stuff was happening
We had nowhere to go
Everything was shut down
Even the fucking hiking trails
That was so
That was the beginning of like
When it rains it pours
Because
We were so mad
We were so mad
And there was nothing we could do
Other than sit in our house
And like watch hunter hunter
And we were like
Fuck it we're gonna go on a walk
Like there was like this abandoned golf course
That you could like walk
Nobody thought to shut it down
And we went there with blitz
And we walked for like two hours
We walked for two hours
And like
That next morning
We woke up and blitz couldn't
He couldn't lower his head
To drink water eat food
I was so scared
I thought
I was so scared
So we took him to the vet
Emergency vet couldn't go in with him
Because COVID
Turned out he had IVDD
That disc disorder where like
One of his discs was too close to the other
And the walk flared up his spine
So he couldn't move
So he had to go on painkillers
I'm not gonna play
Baldur's gate today
But probably tomorrow
I'll probably be on tomorrow
I kind of just impromptu did this stream
Because I was bored
And
I'm just like waiting for Ian to get home
I'm probably gonna
Get off and eat
Pretty soon here
But
Because I haven't had lunch
But um
Yeah, no it was like
Very when it rains at port
Like that was the beginning
Of things getting hard
For sure
COVID really fucked up so much man
But also I was living by the beach back then
And it was sick
Because the beaches were empty all the time
That would be so magical feeling
It was amazing
Nature was healing for a little bit
Yeah
The um
Wasn't it like there were dolphins in the
In the uh
In Italy in the canal or something
Yo I gotta go
And I've been mostly lurking
But before I leave
I just wanted to say
This has been my first time really watching
And it's been super enjoyable
Thank you
Thanks Buangie
Wishing you and Ian all the best
And can't wait for the next stream
Thank you
That means a lot
I um
I would love to
To gather more uh
Regulars
Shut up hoop
That's why we need Caleb
The only person who puts hoop in his place is Caleb
Uh the cleanest the New York City subways
Have ever been
Was during COVID
Yeah
That makes sense
I was seeing someone in LA
And flights were $30 one way
I basically lived there
Uh with her for a year and a half
During lockdown
That's a crazy memory
That's so cool
The combination of COVID
And this last big rain in California
Uh
Has
Invigorated the bugs and animals
A ton this year
That's neat
I'm new so I just thought
Uh this was really interesting
An intense backstory
For your Balder Game 3 roleplay
Fuck
I actually wish
I wish
I wish that were true
Yeah
I always think about
Do you ever do that
Where you like um
One day you look around
And you're like
What the fuck
Happened
What the fuck happened
Cause that happens to me a lot
Especially recently
And reminds me of that talking head song
Um
And the days go by
Um
Yeah
I don't know
What the fuck
I remember
I have this like
Really distinct memory
Of like being in university
I was in a drawing class
And uh
You guys seem real
Keep your chin up
Thank you
Thank you Corbin
I appreciate that
Um
I was in drawing class
And uh
The art teachers there
They either like you
Or they fucking don't
And this one he did
He gave me like a B plus
I think on something
And it made me really emotional
Cause I was having a really hard time
In my art classes
And it's really hard to like
Know why I was having a hard time
Cause it's so subjective
Um
And he said to me
He was like
You know you don't have to be here
Right
You don't have to be here
You don't need to be here
And I was like
What?
And what do you mean?
He goes
There's plenty of people
That go on to do great things
That don't
You know
Don't show
Uh
Show out for their
Uh
College degree
Like they don't finish it
Um
And I really thought about that
For like
A couple months
And um
I decided to quit
College
And
I left
Everything
To like
I think I had like
I sold my goalie equipment
Used
I had like $500
$550
Um
And I moved to
British Columbia
Very little money
And uh
Lived in a basement
With like two other girls
Um
And I thought to myself
At the time
I was like
This is the beginning
Of like
And that's like
My last memory
It feels like
And then I
I look around now
And I'm like
What the fuck
Like
What
How
Did I become
Like one of the
Like least liked
Uh people
On the internet
I feel like
I feel like
More people hate me
Than Onision
And maybe it's because
I'm
I'm in it
Like I'm in
I'm seeing it
But that's what it feels like
It feels like I quit
College
To become the most
Hated
Person
On YouTube
Oh lord
Not the onion
You know what's funny
I said to my
I made a joke about Onision
To my therapist
That I
I didn't think she would
Get
I forget that she like
Watches
She knows like some
YouTube lore
And she burst out laughing
And I was like
Whoa
I was like
Onision mentioned
Onision
Onion definitely has
More haters
I hope
I hope too
Hey
I hope too
But it's weird
You look around
You're like what the fuck
Happened
I quit college
I told myself like
This is the beginning
I'm gonna be like
An artist or something
I'm gonna like
I was working two jobs
I was working at Denny's
In the greeting card shop
And
I was painting
And I was like
I'm just gonna be this
I'm just gonna
Try and live my dream
Eating oats
Every single day
Mixed in with raisins
And
And now
We're here
What
Finian
Thank you so much
For the six months
Welcome back
To the salad boys
I grew up on
Edgy YouTube content
And eventually matured
A lot
Through the pandemic
Plus
Considing
Conceding
BLM protests
Oh
Considing
Coinciding
Rating is hard
Coinciding
BLM protests
And now
Have found
Myself back again
Watching H3
And Ian
Both just like I did
A long time
That's sweet
I love that
That's
That is very comforting
To know
I'm sorry
I gotta go study
For my summer classes
Hope to see y'all soon
Thanks for the fun stream
Thanks Megan
Thanks for hanging out
And inputting
I really appreciate it
That makes sense
Regular anxious people
That aren't famous
Might think that way
If they have
One bad interaction
So it's gotta be wild
On that scale
Yeah
Yes
Yeah, that's true
I
When you see a video
A hate video
Where you're like painted
Green on a thumbnail
And it's got like
500,000 views
To a million views
You
You do think to yourself
Like
The whole world hates me
Like it's hard to not
It's hard to not
Have that thought
Right
A lot of people
Like
Imagine having a stadium
Of 20,000 people
Booing at you
Imagine you're standing
In the middle of a stadium
Having 20,000 people
Booing at you
I would fold so fast
While you're a wallet
So
No, I just like
Like
A million people
That is this
That is like
If you lived
Sorry, Merlin
If you lived in Seattle
That's the
Whole
City
The whole city of Seattle
Imagine you're like
Walking down the street
And everybody's like
Fuck you
I don't know
It does something to you
It changes your brain chemistry
It
It really does
You're definitely not hated
Like Onision
That dude can
Never live a normal life again
That's true
No, no
That's
Thank you for snapping me
Back into reality
Because that is true
Bro cannot
Like
I don't think Bro can
Go anywhere
This is crazy
Me and Ian
Have never had a negative
Interaction
In person
Since
The
Apology video has come out
Or any of the
Even the only fan stuff
All of that
Never had a
Negative interaction
Except for one
There was a dude who was doing
Door dash
Or Uber eats or something
On a scooter
In downtown Seattle
And he like
Road passed
With his mouth a gape
Kind of just like staring at
Ian
And then when he was like
20 feet away
He yelled back
Like hey
And Ian was like
Yeah
And he like
Said some fucking
Like dog whistle
Thing
Very clearly a
Dog whistle thing
And Ian was like
Cool
He like
Waited till he was like
Way gone
That was very weird
So that
That is the one time
And it wasn't even really
At him
It was like more like
Some like dog whistle
Thing
Have you seen the
Martin
Scorzi
Is that how you say that?
Scor-
I always
Fuck up his name
Movie
After hours
I feel like it has
Similar vibes to that
No
I have not
That's so cringe
Scor-
Scorsese
Scorsese
Thank you
I heard the
New
The new
What's that guy's name?
Why am I-
Nicolas Cage
Movie
About him showing up
In everybody's dreams
Very like
Relatable and therapeutic
To watch
What are you doing
Scratching your head
Scor-
Scorsese
Yeah, no, it was very cringe
It-
That made me want to cringe
Out of my skin
Baul
He's got big fluff
Baul
Are you so sleepy?
King of sleep
Dream scenario
Yep
That's the one
I don't want Nick Cage in my dreams
What?
Vampires kiss Nick Cage
You don't want that in your dreams?
Marilyn
I'm trying to show you off
But it's hard
You're an elusive guy
You can see his feet
And his head
He's such a cute guy
He's-
I feel so lucky
He's such a sweet guy
The only thing that kind of sucks right now
Is that he's in that like
Teenager phase
Where like
If I try to grab him
To like put him in his crate
If I need to go somewhere
He's never been in his crate
For longer than an hour
And it's always when he's like sleepy
But now he's at the age
Where like if you try to grab him
And put him in his crate
He'll like
Fucking like duke you out
And then run under the couch
And I think it's just because
He's a teenager
And he's being kind of a crazy guy
He's going through puberty
I'm going through changes
Trying to move this over a bit
He's so cute
Nice
He's so cute
He always looks like he's
Melting
He's so saggy
He's a saggy guy
I first saw face off high
And it ruined my night
Listen
Okay
Sometimes that means
That you had the best movie experience
Must have been a real good movie
I love
I've decided
I don't like
What's his name
Shy LaBeouf anymore
Now that I've learned what he's done
Now I've learned that he's a piece of shit
So I don't like Shy LaBeouf anymore
But I do like
Nicholas Cage and Emma Stone
Shy LaBeouf
Yeah
I didn't know what he did
I didn't know
That wasn't very
Like nobody was talking about it
But now that he's made of resurgence
Like everybody's talking about it
I was highslash
Wasted to see fellowship of the real world
I was highslash
Wasted to see fellowship of the real world
I was highslash
I was highslash
I was highslash
I was highslash
I was highslash
Wasted to see fellowship of the ring
Opening night
And didn't even know
What movie I had wanted to do
Best night ever
Euuuugh
That's sick
I love
Like the concept
Of Lord of the Rings
I love the fa
Like
I wish I could live
I wish I could
I wish I could be Legolas
That's like the one movie
Where I multi...
I wish I could fucking just like be warped into that reality
No, I'm not about to say lord of the rings is bad. I love lord of the rings to the point where I wish I could
Live it. I wish I could live in lord of the rings
High fancies pog it's the best I want somebody to make a new lord of the rings or something
Give me like game of thrones was cool
But it wasn't lord of the rings cool, you know
I need like
I don't know. I'm such a fan of that shit that like people say the hobbit was bad. I don't think so
I think it was fucking awesome rings of power on prime is good wait
Really
You know, I was like scratching the wall with her foot. I didn't wait
I didn't even know that existed rings of power lord of the rings is just
Goofy enough in my opinion game of thrones is too serious. I agree. They need a gimley
I actually regret not naming him gimley. I think he's a gimley. He's aged into a gimley
In my opinion
But they need a gimley
Yeah, I was very close to naming him that but I I I didn't know how he was gonna age
So
But I think merlin is a great name for him too gimley means like fire or flame
Which is part of the reason also why I wanted to but
I don't know man. I really gotta watch Lord of the Rings again
What time is it 138 I wonder if Ian's on the plane I'm gonna say hey, hey bro. Are you on the plane?
You on the plane
Yeah, I'm streaming someone asked about the podcast
Okay, he's on the plane, uh, have you eaten
I
Had um for because my teeth are still fucked like my gums
I uh for breakfast made oatmeal and then I like whipped up some egg white you make it all like foamy
And then you mix it in and you cook it and it makes it like
It makes like a really good texture. I really like it get a lot of protein
So should I wait I think I should wait sounds like Ian hasn't eaten
I
Severance
What the hell is that
Severance
Okay, I'll wait for Ian to eat
I haven't watched dune 2 yet because merlin was just a little babe when dune 2 came out and we couldn't leave him for that long
I can't believe you didn't get stitches and don't uh have a mouth full of gauze actual divine intervention
Yeah, the um, so she said because they were fully erupted. It was pretty like they came out really easily
She just like grabbed them with the pliers pushed up and then pulled out and they just slid out like just the whole tooth
and to be honest like
Like they're cut it hurts kind of but like not a lot like if if I woke up one day
um
With that memory wiped and you asked me like what was wrong. I would say like maybe I'm starting to get sick
Like that's the time. I don't have any Tylenol in me or anything. I'm just like chilling
Severance is an apple tv show satire about modern corporate workplace
Oh
I want to watch that the curse is good if you haven't watched the curse yet. You should definitely watch the curse
All right, I got to get ready to go. Ooh a hair appointment. What do you?
I'll ask you later what you got done. Um, have a good day slash night and I will see you later
I think it's so cool that Tolkien gave Lord of the Rings a backstory as if he discovered it in an old European mansion
And just changed some of the names and places to make it fantasy
It meant it's meant to be written as a kind of diary by Frodo. That's so fucking cool
I love that
Did you hear about the new catholic patron saint of the internet, huh?
What does that mean
The curse was wild. It was so good
So good
Nathan fielders so talented
You
Fully erupted is going to be my new stage name. No one steal it
Fully erupt. I I do think you would get a lot of like
I think you would get a lot of applause
tips
love
admiration
If you did use that name
Yeah, Emma stone is a fantastic
She's just been picking like banger after banger after banger
thing to act in because like poor things
Like both her and mark ruffalo were so fucking good in that movie
Uh, unbelievable
unbelievable
Lola land is another yeah, she's just she's been killing it like
Yeah, poor things so good
Like we watched that in the movies
And um, I knew it was going to be good because like a bunch of like weirdos on uh tiktok were
Saying that it was the worst movie ever made and like calling it holly weird and I was like, that's how you know
It's going to be a banger. They're like, holy weird is after added again. I was like fuck
We need to go watch that immediately
And uh did not disappoint. Yeah, ruffalo eight
It was when he fucking like pulls out his hair when he's like
When he's like down, I mean she's looking down at him and he's like
That one and then when he's in when he's like in prison and he farts randomly
I don't know why it was so fucking I'm going to the casino
I have to rewatch that because his acting was so good both of them. I don't know so good
Everybody was really good in that defo everyone
Yeah, and it's hard for movies to make me laugh
Um, another movie that was really good that I watched recently that uh, I think it was at an indie
It was an indie film was uh bottoms
I don't know if any of you guys have heard of bottoms, but that was a fucking really good movie too
It's about um
two uh lesbian best friends who are
In a high school where they're trying to get laid like they're not very popular
They want to like get laid and they're they make like a fight club
Like a women's defense fight club to like pursue their it's it's very funny and
Wacky and and cute and like the I don't know just a lot of like creative risks
Oh, yeah, that was such a good movie. Okay. Nice
Nice. I the people who are watching this have taste
Okay, I feel better about my audience because my audience has taste
Bottoms is good
Uh, though it at times carried by its influences a bit overall really funny and absurd. I love the absurdity of it for sure
Oh, yeah, definitely check it out. It's funny. I liked it a lot
I
Fight club movie about two main characters. Yeah, okay, pal
Okay, I've heard I've heard of this before
Yeah, I've seen that one
I man
Wolf of wall street and uh fight club make me really sad that
You can't really publicly be an enjoyer of it because half of the people who publicly enjoy it are losers
And that really sucks because you'll say like I really like that and then there's like a whole
There's like it's like a branch, you know, like
Which one are you?
It's like that meme where the guy's standing there and then there's like the evil haunted mansion and then the like butterflies in the forest
So I usually avoid it but same with scott pilgrim you say you like scott pilgrim. It's the same thing. It's like
Okay, are you which one are you?
I can't tell
No, don't give the movie to them true. That is true. Yeah, that is what you're doing, huh?
All right, I'll say it loud and proud. I love fight club and wolf of wall street
Crap another ad break
I said it as the ad break was happening. So does it really count?
True but I liked all those films before anyone became a film critic
And you should say that always always post face it with that
I like fight club and wolf of wall street, but
I like them before everyone became a film critic
Hoob stop hoop
The hoop you're like a mischievous little freaking imp man
A little british imp man who does mischievous tricks and tries to make everyone's life hell
Like rumple stilt skin or something. It's fucked up
Guys check the pod, please
Honestly if a motherfucker is being prejudice towards you about your film taste, they're not worth chilling with that's true
Yeah
Yeah, you say something and somebody's like
Like everybody had hey everybody's into their things, you know
Just because someone likes fast and furious. Maybe they just fucking like
Vin Diesel
Is that who's in that movie?
Maybe they're just like things blown up
Someone lied to me at some point in my life and told me that Vin Diesel is Lebanese
And I believe them because he looks like my Lebanese uncles kind of
Like he has the Lebanese je ne sais quoi
But um, that's not true apparently
Lululemon ad and then a bob's furniture ad then a cracker barrel food ad
Which have now completed ad break over
fuck
Is it better to have ad rolls when people come in rather than having them constantly roll out
What do you think?
Please stop it with the canadian phrases
He's je ne sais quoi
Lebanese men are easy to spot because they're fucking beautiful true
that
What can I say we're gifted
Queen of having wisdom teeth out. I'm the queen they pulled them right out. It took not even 20 minutes
The crack I did not like that. I didn't like the crack
That happened on both sides
I am the wrong person to ask that's fair
Now mids are better. Okay. All right mids definitely better if I click on a stream and it's just immediate ads
I leave in one second. That's what I thought because that's what happens to me. I click on it. It's an ad. I'm like, what the fuck
I was semi curious at best
I
Got a kick-ass huge chocolate cookie ad and it looked like you were doing the voice over nice
Was it like a crumble cookie ad?
Do they fill the gaping void where the teeth used to be or what no
She said I I didn't even need uh her what the sigma
Sorry, I had to I watched sorry that my brain skipped around. Uh, no, they pulled it out. I didn't even need stitches. She said
I watched this video of this child talking to his dad and he said shut the sigma up
What the sigma shut the sigma up. That's what he said to his dad. I was like, oh, no
This is that that is why I can never have kids
It's
Shut the sigma up
We officially got a needs a brain rot before gta gta 6 when did gta 6 come out soon? Yeah, I think
I'm on the other side. I'm okay with ads at the start
And I hate getting into a convo and then miss what they say. Oh
Fuck I both suck
twitch
I understand they're in a rock and hard place, but like
Can it be like one ad?
Every hour or something like one ad why is it got to be three
Every twice an hour. I don't know. It seems like a lot
It was a super long cookie, man. I didn't pay attention
I was trying to guess what was happening by reading chat. Oh, maybe like a subway cookie five five dollar cookie
I
Stealing that one shut the sigma up shut the sigma up
Money true. Yeah
Jen alpha our different breed left my ass off. You got to respect it. Yeah. Hey
You know, I'd rather have a kid say shut the sigma up to me than like, um, whatever the fuck we were doing
I can't remember. I think we were just outright like
Nasty to be honest
Find a sigma and shut them the fuck up. That's the that's the trick though. Can you shut a sigma up?
Whoa
Finnean, thank you for gifting Philly up a sup Philly up now. You don't have to be interrupted the torquing boston has gifted you
Uh a sub
Thank you finnean
I told my kid she was straight ruining my riz with her skinny attitude
Oh
Man, I do I like I like that like there's some parents that literally can like
What's up rizzler?
What is up my fellow rizzlers?
And then your kid doesn't know what to do
because they're like fuck that's
Take our words
How do you do my fellow rizzlers? That's what um, if I had a kid that's what I'd be doing
Skibbety rizz Ohio style
Aw
Like a little angel like a little sweet baby
That's the coolest thing I've ever read there's also teachers that are figuring out like how to shut their kids up like basically doing the like
Mewing thing to them
I'm a mewing god now look
Now I got my teeth fixed I had chronic inflammation in this area
Now I have a jawline what the sigma
My jawline is rizzing up livy done
Oh
I didn't know who livy done was I still don't know who baby gronk is
Um, holy shit the quiet coyote evolved into telling kids not to break their mewing streak
Yes
Yes, don't break your mewing streak kids that it it's working. Apparently there's a lot of teachers that are saying that it's working
The mewing kings
Can you imagine being 70 like or like 65 ish like your 10 year at your school
You're just fucking like trying to like get through the years and you have kids doing this shit at you
You'd be like what hell am I in you'd be so confused. You don't even know what a phone is
There's no catching those people up to speed. They're just in hell
Baby gronk is a child of baby shark
I thought baby gronk was literally like
Just a like a baby that maybe looked like gronk the football player
I don't know
All I know now is that there's like a new wave of popular streamers
That's how like out of touch. I am now
I was pretty in touch for like a while, but I kind of lost it. I think after like
Tyler won
You know, I was like very involved in that. I was like, okay tyler one's the it girl
and then
like sneako and like
I don't even know
Started like getting popular that aiden ross and I was like, okay
Well, at least I'm aware of them and now there's like this dude named sketch
Who's like, what's up, brother? And I I'm totally gone. I'm like out. I've like I don't know if like I hit 30 and like the
the like
fad doors closed on me
But now I feel like I'm totally
sneako is
Someone that will make you sad if you look them up
That's like
The best way to put it sneako will make you sad if you look them up. So it's best not to
But it was I will say
It was really fucked up for um that ufc fighter to
Fuck them up in the cage like that
I don't know if any of you guys saw that but that was fucked up
What's that guy's name?
He um
It's a ufc fighter who like
He went on
Um theovans podcast recently
Sean Strickland. Thank you
Sean Strickland, um
Like invited sneako to spar and I let me give you the the inside scoop on that, right?
When ian was training for his, um
Event
There were pro fighters that offered to
spar with him
In the fighting world if a pro fighter is offering to spar with you what they really mean is
Lightly tap you up while you try to punch me
That's usually what that means okay ian like sparred
With um hot rod
Who's like a very good fighter who like actually fought on the card on our last card
um
Before the youtuber fights happened and just obliterated the guy he was fighting
um
And I watched the footage all the time
And hot rod was very gentle right these guys
Can fuck you up and the pros love asking to spar because it is good for them right?
They're competing on selling their personality. It's the sad reality of fighting
You're selling your personality more so than you're fighting you're you're selling your fighting ability
So it's a great collab opportunity
But you have to have a coach that looks out for you and knows the scene
Because there are some guys that ask if they want to spar if you want to spar
And what they actually mean is do you want me to humble you?
Okay, there's two different types of guys in the uh pro fighting world and what Sean Strickland was asking him was
Do you want me to humble you?
Yeah
Sean Strickland is the last guy that you want to spar
Yeah, as as a non fighter for sure
um
There there's just certain guys out there that like they can't hold back. It's it
They don't want to hold back in sparring
So you have to be very careful with who you say yes to in the pro world to sparring
Sean asked sneako
if he wanted to spar
and whoever was like
Not somebody needed to be looking out for sneako. There should have been someone there that said no
And uh, no one did no one said no and um
Sean
I'm surprised that sneako was standing because
That is so dangerous. It was so dangerous. I it was hard to watch. It was very painful to watch
He basically waited for the last like what 10 seconds 30 seconds and just started wailing on sneako
um
And uh, it was sad. It was almost like because sneako wasn't going down. He just started wailing on him harder
Uh, Sean isn't known to put people out with that shot to be fair true
but like
And I guess sneako doesn't have like a lot of like head damage history and stuff but like still like that's how
Getting hit by Sean Strickland at all
Like is terrifying but getting hit repeatedly. I'm just surprised that he stayed standing. I would fucking
Went into fetal
Yeah, I'm protected shots too. He yeah, I don't know it made me sad to look at
That
Was sneako fucked on the in the head uh beforehand or could we blame this on it?
Uh, yeah, I don't know that guy's a odd duck
Not relevant to sparring but if I was a pro fighter
Fighting an amateur I would probably want to knock them out just for sake of pride
The thing is though, if you're a pro fighter, you know what getting knocked out does to you health wise. It's not
And also body shots you can I remember when ab couldn't get up
after he went to the
Uh stool and he couldn't get up and where he was pointing to on his body
I was terrified that he had uh ruptured his liver
Um, because like liver shots, especially unprotected can do a lot of damage to your body
And the way that he was pointing and the way that he couldn't get up. I I was very concerned that he had uh
some one of his organs was not doing well and um
That was scary
But it turns out that like ab had just never gotten hit
The first time you get a liver shot or you get like a
Like a hit on a direct organ it your body physically a lot of the times won't let you continue
you have to fold
And you can't get up you can't keep going
um
And you can wait it out
but the immediate is very scary you like lose all kind of control and
um
I think that happened to ab where he folded and he couldn't get up for a second
And he wasn't sure what was going on with his body. So he called it which I think is smart
Um sparring isn't a fight. Uh, it's a practice session people who knock someone out in a spar don't deserve practice partners
Yeah, and a lot of gyms if you do that you get
casted out
unless you're like a
profiter that they want to suck and then
You get special privileges, but you people get warned before getting in the ring with them that they're
known to be, uh
Bad sparring partners. That's the way they'll put it
Watching lex freedman and gsp sparring is probably the most wholesome thing i've ever seen
Uh gsp is so instructive and nice gsp. Um
We when we went to watch jake paul fight silva
He was in front of us in
Getting coffee
And he was buying costumes and I was like damn gsp
Fuck and his and as he was buying condoms his phone rang and it was like the darth fit like um the darth vader theme
Uh, and so now I associate gsp with condoms and darth vader, which I mean is pretty fucking cool
He um
He actually it's funny. I've been in proximity with him accidentally twice now
Uh there I was I was right behind him and then the other time
um
He's a canadian hero right canada really likes him. He's from montreal and um
I
was
Friends with a lot of pro lacrosse players for the imonton rush and they used to have guests celebrities come in at halftime
And gsp was the guest celebrity that came in at halftime. So he was in the dressing room hanging out with everybody
Um, so I've technically been in proximity to to him twice. What are the odds of that? I don't know
But yeah king of uh
star wars and fox
That's what I know about gsp
But yeah, I mean I'm excited we're gonna start boxing again soon
Um, we're gonna go to a boxing gym and and put in work
We'll probably do some open sessions and start hitting the the bag
I am really excited to do it when I don't I'm not struggling with like eating disorder issues because
I
Was really struggling the couple years that we were doing creator clash. Um, I just didn't feel like I had a lot of control and I was um
I think I was looking for control in my eating
so I was not eating very well and losing a lot of weight and
Boxing on top of that and it took away a lot of my muscle mass
Would creator clash ever pivot uh mma event or boxing?
It's not that boxing is the most marketable
I think the thing that I worry about with mma is that you you turn it from checkers to chess and
That makes it more interesting, but it also makes it more like there's more things to worry about like
Danger wise because getting someone to learn
Uh like mma and fighting
Uh, there's just a lot of things that can go wrong and it's a it's a steeper learning curve
Boxing is a lot more like two-dimensional if that makes sense
But I I think that would be cool. I just
It's already such a risk that
It it feels like it would be too much
Yeah, a lot of disciplines and like you somebody might spec into one and then not learn how to like
Defend another or like, you know, like I I feel like a lot of people would probably end up jiu-jitsu wrestling
which is cool, but
There's just a lot of opportunity for things to also like back at the head shots and stuff
Or like it's just so much you have to worry about boxing is already so much to worry about
Boxing, I'll have you guys know when those fights are going on
I I'm like hovering with a bucket like ready to puke because I'm so fucking worried. I get so anxious during that shit
I get you know, I'm the one who's like
I sign these people out to do this and and work with them, you know
I'm going through all their fears talking with them when they need someone like, you know telling them that this is like
A thing to do and then they go out there and fight and I I have to watch them
I care about all of them and so you have like all it feels like all of your children are like going out to death match each other and it is so
And then and then the cherry on top is your husband your husband goes out there does it
The first time it happened. I thought I was gonna fucking explode
I thought I was gonna vomit and explode at the same time because
It didn't occur to me until he was going up into the ring. I was like
My I'm losing my dad to a brain disease and now I'm asking like now my husband
Has elected himself to go up there
And get punched in the head
I the first the first fight
Um, Ian's dad had to come over and like uh put it like try to like calm me down
He was like putting his hands on my shoulder. He's like, it's okay. It's gonna be okay. I'm like fucking like rocking back and forth. Um
Yeah, I don't know that was so surreal
crazy
His dad was so shocked his we tell him all this crazy shit. We're like, yeah, we're gonna box. We're gonna do this
He shows up. He comes to the event and he was like, what the fuck
It's just so like crazy, but it was really cool that his dad could come and support
But yeah, it's rough it's a lot but I love it
I love the payoff of seeing
Everyone's so happy and so accomplished and feeling like I fucking did that
like that is like
I wish you could like bottle that type of like
Living life like it feels like in that moment like everyone's living life so hard
Um, I'm so passionate about that specifically
Um, and I want I want to do it again. I want people to be there for it again
I want people to see it again. It is so
Yeah, the michael reeves fight was legendary
Especially the fucking screaming after for the fucking
Minecraft mouth guard. I don't know
it's um
It is very special for sure
Okay, it's 208 I think ian's landing right now
I should probably get up and
Get merlin up and moving a little bit and maybe take feona for a w al k
Um, thank you for listening. Thank you for witnessing. Uh, me make new clips for commentary channels
Um, and uh, yeah, I don't know. I feel
Really good. I've really been enjoying streaming. I want to keep doing it regularly. I would love to build a community backup
and um
Next time i'm not driving, but i'm looking forward to another cc. Yeah, the drive is crazy
Uh, you drove a crazy distance and you did it all like very in a very short period of time
Um
Oh swag. I'm sorry. I'll be back. I might be playing bouldersgate 3 tomorrow either tomorrow the day after we'll see
I have therapy tomorrow
But yeah, uh, thank you for watching and I'll see you guys soon
Bye
